[bla333]

Them warm but my other dogs mom had her pups under the porch! None of them died. Maybe that was just luck but since dogs are much like wolves like cats are just like tigers etc. and since wolves have their baby's outside I am very well believing that

[bla333]

The pups don't need a heat lamp.

[Wondergirl]

Comment on Just_Another_Lemming's post
Dogs have been having puppies outside in harsh weather for thousands of years. Animals such as baby chickens do need an inkibator(sp?) to keep

Actually, no, dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years and expect their humans to feed them and give them a warm place to live.

Coyotes and wolves create dens in the wild and make sure it's a warm, protected place before they have their pups. Read up on these animals' lifestyle and habitat.

Canines do not have pups "in harsh weather" unless their human owners/masters give them no choice and force them to.

[Wondergirl]

wolves have their baby's outside

No, they don't.

From wolfcountry.net --

"The den is usually on an elevated area, on a hill, or high on a river bank, also important is proximity to water. The den is usually oval shaped, the opening is about 3 feet wide by 2 feet high, the den is about 10 to 15 feet deep ending in a 4 foot chamber."

[bla333]

What do you mean they don't?? No one can own a wild animal so obviously they have them somewhere away from humans and protected. If they had them inside that wouldn't be away from humans.

[bla333]

I'm sorry wondergirl but I'm going to have to believe myself here. Chickens do need warmth but puppies? No

[bla333]

OK I believe you on the wolves but the puppies are in a room that is fairly warm now. Therefore no need for extra heat like a heat lamp.

[Wondergirl]

If even wolves and coyotes protect their pups by putting them in a warm place, why can't you? Why are you lying to yourself? It won't help the pups.

I hope you plan to sleep nearby them every night. You won't need a blanket since the room is nice and warm.

[bla333]

My parents refuse and I am to young to call a pet store and do anything that people have suggested on here. I am not sleeping nearby the pups and they are fine. Its been five days and they're alive without a heat lamp!

[bla333]

I am just getting so frustrated! I just don't know what to do. We won't get a heat lamp parents rules. My bro tried to make her a whelping box but she didn't use it. She is in what everyone thinks is a cold room. I don't want them to die and my whole

[bla333]

Family says they're fine when you guys say they're not!

[Alty]

Bla, there's a difference between your family and the people here. We're experts on dog care. We know what it takes to keep puppies alive. Your family doesn't.

Your brother is a backyard breeder. I don't want to be mean to you because you're just a child, but just like every other poster on this site, you came to ask a question, and I won't lie to you just because of your age. Backyard breeders are the lowest of the low, just one step about puppy mills. I'm sure you've heard about puppy mills.

Backyard breeders breed for money, not to further the breed. Because of this, they rarely put in the money needed to insure the best for the puppies. If a heating lamp is too much money, what will happen when one of the puppies gets sick and needs a vet? That won't be cheap either. These puppies will need to be with mom until they're at least 8 weeks old before they can be sold. They will need their first set of shots, and they'll need food once they're weaned. Will your brother be willing to pay for all of that when he's not even willing to pay for a heat lamp? I doubt it.

We're giving you the advice you need to help ensure these puppies survival. You don't have to believe us, that's your right. I said it before, the puppies may survive, but without a heat lamp, without a safe place to grow, you're lowering the odds of survival considerably.

If a heat lamp is out of the question, obviously there's nothing you can do. Your parents do make the rules, and I'm sure they're the ones telling you that the puppies will be fine, and that we're all wrong. I hope they'll be there to comfort you if the puppies don't survive. I also hope they'll do the responsible thing and take the puppies to the vet should anything go wrong.

We've given you accurate advice. That's all we can do. I think this thread should be closed, seeing as you're unable and unwilling to do what we suggested. I really don't wish to see you posting that you're heartbroken because the puppies are sick and you don't know what to do.

I wish you all the best, and a Merry Christmas.

[Alty]

Also, just want to add. Please don't use the comment feature to post. Scroll to the bottom of your page, there's a post feature. The comment feature is limited. For follow up posts it's best to use the post feature which doesn't limit what you can post. That way your posts aren't broken up into three or four because you ran out of room.

Makes it easier for you, and easier for us. :)

[Just Dahlia]

Could an electric blanket that you might have in your home (since it's Washington) help? Or would that be too dangerous for the pups?:confused:

Don't try it until an expert says yes.

[Wondergirl]

I'm not a Dogs Expert (just a cat person). I don't believe the electric blanket would work. Most say don't put something heavy or even another blanket on top of it or tuck it in under the top mattress. That would mean the dogs should not lie on it. Plus, the pups will be peeing and pooing on it, which would not be a good thing for the blanket and the electricity going through it.

I thought about one of those low-wattage electric fleece pet pads, but most aren't very big (not for a mother dog and six pups), plus they cost $25 or more.

[Alty]

Electric blankets can be dangerous. Puppies have been burned by them because they can't easily move away when it gets too hot. It's always better to have heat coming from above, not below. :)

[shazamataz]

I think everything that can be said has been said and there's no point repeating ourselves.

If there are no further questions from the OP I will close this thread later today before we do another circle.


On a side note, they do sell special heating pads for puppies but I'm not a fan of them, it's harder to regulate the temperature.

A whelping box should be kept at a constant 95 F. Not something easily done with a heater in the room or a pad.
A heat lamp suspended over the box is much better at keeping a constant temp although does still need to be monitored and may need to be lowered during the night and raised during the day.

[bla333]

I'm sorry but I'm not going to buy a whelping box heating lamp electric blanket or a pad.

[bla333]

I'm going to stick with comments I can't find the post button

[Wondergirl]

The Answer BOX is at the bottom of the page. Please scroll down, and you will see it a big open space surrounded by a frame..