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    Sep 10, 2010, 07:01 AM
    Does it add up?
    Two mothers and two daughters went shopping for new dresses for a wedding celebration. They each returned with a new dress, but they only bought 3 dresses. How can this be correct?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 07:16 AM
    It was a grandmother, mother, and daughter, thus 2 mothers and 2 daughters.
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    Sep 10, 2010, 07:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by shunter19 View Post
    It was a grandmother, mother, and daughter, thus 2 mothers and 2 daughters.
    I see that it was too easy for you. So here's a harder one.

    The Mountaineers

    A family of 4 were going on a mountaineering holiday. The second morning they were all found dead in their cabin. The coroner declared that they had all died from drowning. The faucets in the cabin had not been left on and the boiler and water storage units were undamaged. There was no sign of foul play. What caused them to drown?


    Clues: 1. They were at least a mile from the nearest lake.
    2. It had not rained for 5 days. Not a flash flood.
    3. It was not caused by problems with a dam.
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    Sep 10, 2010, 07:45 AM

    Chinese water torturer?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 08:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    Chinese water torturer?
    No...
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    Sep 10, 2010, 08:51 AM

    Did the coroner lie?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 08:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Did the coroner lie?
    No, he was the best in his field. An honorable man.
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    Sep 10, 2010, 08:55 AM

    Okay.

    Did the coroner make a mistake then?
    Was he unsure of a fact?

    Everyone is prone to mistakes ;)
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    Sep 10, 2010, 09:01 AM

    Did someone drown them?

    Was it an accidental death for all of them?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 09:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Okay.

    Did the coroner make a mistake then?
    Was he unsure of a fact?

    Everyone is prone to mistakes ;)
    No mistake was made on the autopsies. I wouldn't do you all like that.
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    Sep 10, 2010, 09:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Did someone drown them?

    Was it an accidental death for all of them?
    Yes, they all died accidentally. No foul play was involved.
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    Sep 10, 2010, 09:16 AM

    I wanted to make things sure, as opposed to the things I implied as settled before. I make so many non settled assumptions :o.

    Were their cabin on the mountain?
    Was the mountain covered with ice?
    Was it a cold night?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 09:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    I wanted to make things sure, as opposed to the things I implied as settled before. I make so many non settled assumptions :o.

    Were their cabin on the mountain? No.
    Was the mountain covered with ice? No.
    Was it a cold night?
    No.
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    Sep 10, 2010, 09:32 AM

    Was there any source of water in the cabin besides the faucets, the boiler and water storage units?

    Did the mountaineers have an illness?

    Does drowned here means that their lungs were filled with water?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 09:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Was there any source of water in the cabin besides the faucets, the boiler and water storage units? No.

    Did the mountaineers have an illness? No.

    Does drowned here means that their lungs were filled with water? Yes, from an outside source, not internally, from body fluids.
    Keep thinking.
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    Sep 10, 2010, 09:55 AM

    Did they drown on their own spit or mucus? Did they drink themselves to death?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 10:11 AM

    Ok, I'll just put it here to keep it easily visible.

    The Mountaineers

    A family of 4 were going on a mountaineering holiday. The second morning they were all found dead in their cabin. The coroner declared that they had all died from drowning. The faucets in the cabin had not been left on and the boiler and water storage units were undamaged. There was no sign of foul play. What caused them to drown?


    Clues: 1. They were at least a mile from the nearest lake.
    2. It had not rained for 5 days. Not a flash flood.
    3. It was not caused by problems with a dam.
    Did they all die on the same day?
    At the same instant?
    Was there some remaining trace of water on the cabin floor?
    Could it be that they were already dead when water got into their lungs?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 10:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    Did they drown on their own spit or mucus? Did they drink theirselves to death?
    No, external fluid source. No, no voluntary intake of said fluid source.
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    Sep 10, 2010, 10:18 AM

    Is it relavent that it was the second day?
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    Sep 10, 2010, 10:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008 View Post
    Ok, I'll just put it here to keep it easily visible.



    Did they all die on the same day?
    At the same instant?
    Was there some remaining trace of water on the cabin floor?
    Could it be that they were already dead when water got into their lungs?
    Yes, same day.
    Within a few minutes of each other.
    Yes.
    No. Drowning was the cause of death.
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