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    Aug 14, 2010, 02:07 PM

    So what do you want me to do? Break up with him? Knowing he's going to throw his life away in the military?
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    #42

    Aug 14, 2010, 02:08 PM

    Does you father have reason to suspect you are having sex with other boys? Has this happened before?
    I don't think he would mind if you had girl friends.
    Your relationship with this boy is too intense and he is not stable.
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    #43

    Aug 14, 2010, 02:11 PM

    I agree with everyone else this is a very messed up situation.

    At your age you shouldn't NEED a boyfriend. And you don't. Having a relationship at this age is disastrous. You are at an age where your emotions are running wild. You don't know who YOU are yet.

    The fact that you two are even thinking about Suicide if you have to break up and not talk to each other screams that loudly. You will have relationships that come and go as you grow up but if suicide is your answer to when they go, You're not ready to be pursuing any.

    There is much more you need to learn and see, and there will never be anyone that is worth taking your life over.

    I agree with your Dad on this one and he knows you better than we do. Thing is he's been your age before he knows what guys that age are like and is protecting you whether you can see that or not. He is trying to keep you from getting hurt and making mistakes in your life that you cannot get a do-over on.

    If he is abusing you then report it. The reason you gave for not reporting it is very disturbing to me. You'd rather be abused than for your boyfriend to get in trouble? You need to put yourself first.

    Breaking up with this guy isn't the end of the world. You'll meet a lot of boys in your life that's the whole point of growing up.
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    #44

    Aug 14, 2010, 02:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bijiou36 View Post
    So what do you want me to do? Break up with him? knowing he's gonna throw his life away in the military?
    Going in to the military is not throwing his life away. He will grow up, he will get mental help if he needs it (which it sounds like he does) He could build a career, do something with his life. He'll have opportunities he probably would not have otherwise. The military has been a life saver for many a young man and woman.
    You are not responsible for this boy, you are a child yourself and have enough problems to deal with.
    This is a burden you do not need, and I think you know that.
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    Aug 14, 2010, 02:20 PM

    Yes he will throw his life away in the militarty he told me he only wants to go so he can get shot and die if we break up & My dad is the one hurting me so no I don't think he's trying to prevent me from getting hurt. And no he just thinks that if I talk to a guy we'll start having sex like I'm a slut or something. & I've only had sex like 3 times with the same person.
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    #46

    Aug 14, 2010, 02:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bijiou36 View Post
    So what do you want me to do? Break up with him? knowing he's gonna throw his life away in the military?
    If you continue what you are doing you will both be throwing your lives away.
    Is that a good option?

    The military sounds like the ideal solution here, it gets him far enough away that you won't wind up pregnant and battered.
    It will put him in a situation that forces you to become mature and gives you a taste of reality that could turn him into a man instead of a selfish manipulating bully.

    Then you can patiently wait at home and I'll bet dad will let you talk to him until your lips fall off.

    And I am forced to say this because you are so wrong.

    You are both too young to know what real love is and are too young to be engaging in sex because you don't understand that either.

    Print this out and save it. Read it in 5 years and see how foolish and stubborn you are being.

    I wish you well.
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    #47

    Aug 14, 2010, 02:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bijiou36 View Post
    yes he will throw his life away in the military he told me he only wants to go so he can get shot and die if we break up & My dad is the one hurting me so no i dont think he's trying to prevent me from getting hurt. And no he just thinks that if i talk to a guy we'll start having sex like im a slut or something. & i've only had sex like 3 times with the same person.
    You two really have no clue.
    By the time this kid would even be ready to go in to a combat situation he would be older and a lot more mature in his thinking.
    If your dad is abusing you need to talk to someone about it. This boy's behavior is abusive for sure. He is very manipulative.
    Tell your dad or a counselor at school that you need to talk to someone.
    You and this young man really need to be away from each other. This relationship is not healthy.
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    #48

    Aug 14, 2010, 02:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bijiou36 View Post
    yes he will throw his life away in the militarty he told me he only wants to go so he can get shot and die if we break up & My dad is the one hurting me so no i dont think he's trying to prevent me from getting hurt. And no he just thinks that if i talk to a guy we'll start having sex like im a slut or something. & i've only had sex like 3 times with the same person.
    First off, even if your "boyfriend" does go into the military they don't play games there. If he is that mentally unstable as you're making him out to be the military will see that. Joining the military isn't as even as just signing a few forms and you're in. There are a lot of steps to make sure the person joining is doing it for the right reasons and not going to put their other soldiers in any danger.

    At his age he is too young to join on his own without his parents. Hopefully, the are a lot wiser than the two of you are with this situation.

    Your Dad is being protective of you. You can't see that because you're young and unexperienced. As stated previously, your Dad doesn't want to be a grandfather right now and more importantly he doesn't want you to be a parent right now and having to make the most difficult choice of what you do with the child if you would be pregnant. You're not ready for a relationship let alone the consequences of what could happen!

    Saying you had sex only 3 times is HUGE at your age. You're not emotionally or mentally mature enough for the relationship. You think you cannot live without this guy when you can and you will. And you are certainly not emotionally ready enough for what sex brings.

    You want to keep saying that your Dad is abusive then make the mature move and report him. Do something about it. Don't let people walk all over you, stand up for yourself.

    But when your Dad is saying that you cannot be in this relationship it's not abuse. It's being protective.

    Focus on your school life, focus on having friends and having fun. You have all the time in the world to explore other areas of life when you're ready to and can handle the consequences of it.
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    #49

    Aug 14, 2010, 02:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bijiou36 View Post
    yes he will throw his life away in the militarty he told me he only wants to go so he can get shot and die if we break up & My dad is the one hurting me so no i dont think he's trying to prevent me from getting hurt. And no he just thinks that if i talk to a guy we'll start having sex like im a slut or something. & i've only had sex like 3 times with the same person.

    This is the same guy you were concerned about watching porn and not treating you well before? Why would you even want to have him as a boyfriend? I thought you wanted someone who would treat you well, respect you, and make you feel good about yourself? Don't you think you deserve that? I think you have clung onto this guy because you are unhappy at home and he has shown you some attention.

    He is conning you about going into the military and hoping to get shot if you break up with him. Don't fall for his manipulative behavior. I'd be surprised if he even went into the military, but if he did, as was said, it would be the best thing that could happen to him to help him get his life straightened out.

    You very well may love him, but that doesn't mean he is good for you. A loving, mature relationship is built on mutual respect. Wanting to help the other person be the best they can be. Supporting them in their dreams and goals, not causing you to feel poorly about yourself, or that you are being compared to the porn he watches. Not being made to feel that you would be responsible if he got hurt or killed because you didn't do what HE wanted you to do. He is selfish and manipulative. He doesn't care about you, he cares about himself and what he wants.

    Since you feel he truly loves you, I assume he is doing all that he can to help your life be less complicated? That he is doing all that he can to help you avoid getting into trouble with your father? That he is encouraging you to focus on school, so that you can reach your dreams and your goals to be happy in your life? That he is putting your needs and wants ahead of his own? If not, wake up, he does not truly love you... plain and simple.

    Treat yourself better than that. Especially if those around you aren't treating you as they should, all the more reason you have to look out for yourself. Do not run from one abusive relationship into another. Find the strength within yourself to break out of this. Think hard about how you want to be treated in a relationship. How do you want a guy to speak to you? To show you respect? To care about your feelings?

    You have already found, as is obvious from this thread and the porn thread, that this guy doesn't do those things. Do not settle for less than you want. The guy who will be that way for you is out there and when you respect yourself, you will find him.
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    Aug 14, 2010, 02:59 PM

    I'm going to jump in here.

    1) If you father is taking his anger out on you in terms of physical abuse, you NEED to report it to someone. A school counselor, clergyman, family services, your mother! This man should not have unsupervised custody over you.

    2) The fact that you claim to be in love with a boy who has taken advantage of you by having sex with you, that has tried to control you, that watches porn at 16 shows that you are more in love with the idea of being in love then with this boy.

    3) You are below the age of consent so this boy committed statutory rape.

    4) If this boy is as unstable as you say, the military will catch it and he will never get as far as combat.

    5) you need to grow up, end this relationship and find a more stable situation that will teach you what love REALLY is (you haven't a clue) and why you have such low self esteem.
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    #51

    Aug 14, 2010, 03:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by natty_jokes View Post
    All I have to say is. That alot of these answers are just not right, like the poor girl says she's in love! Dose no one get that, I say that if you guys really do love eachother, then you guys can find a way to make it work. Have you ever tryed to go to a friends house, and use their phones. And what about a cell-phone. I think that if you guys really do like eachother,then myspace really will have to be good enough. :) :o
    Umm the only "not right" answer I've seen is yours. The OP SAYS she's in love. Notice the emphasis on says. She started a relationship with this boy when she was 14. Do you really believe she knows what love is? I certainly don't. If they really loved each other, the could set the relationship aside until they were older and could resume it without having to worry about parental interference.
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    #52

    Aug 14, 2010, 03:40 PM
    You are, according to your other questions that you have posted, frustrated that your boyfriend doesn't want to have MORE sex. You are the sexually aggressive one, pressuring him for sex.

    You think there is something wrong with him not wanting more sex with you, because he uses porn, and you are jealous of that from what you said in your own words.

    You are underage anyway.

    I don't believe for one minute that you aren't a handful for both your parents, and I don't believe for one second that if your father cares enough about you to try to keep you safe, you are vindictive and arrogant enough to turn around and cause big trouble for him by saying he abuses you.

    I guess that threat, or using that threat is always in the back of your mind. That you have not reported the abuse to any person in authority- family Doctor, school counsellor, pastor, relative, a friends parents, etc. indicates to me, that you are full of baloney. I don't buy it for a second.

    You only brought up the 'abuse' to bolster your argument of needing this boy in your life- implicating somehow that he is some sort of saviour? You need him, not the other way around, from what I've read.

    You probably use the sex, to keep him. You know that if you denied him sex, and put some limits on your relationship with him, he'd send you packing.

    If you were to come clean about the abuse, and put the cards on the table, you know there would be very little to substantiate it, and it would also put you under the microscope as well, and you don't want that now do you. It's called accountability. Part of growing up, and maturing. If you were to walk into any emergency department with bruises that resulted from your father punching you, you know damn well what would happen. You choose not to back up what you say.

    That you don't step up, means you do not have any credibility in my eyes. You are a coward, and a selfish person. You put your needs above everybody else's, and refuse to follow any rules. I suspect your father is barely hanging on keeping you under control.

    It is a shame that you are so sneaky and underhanded, to keep this relationship with the boyfriend going, when clearly you are making very bad choices.

    It is also alarming that you are so sexually active. For some reason you think that sex is the key to keeping this boyfriend. You also think, correctly, that if your father were to be charged with assault, that he could go after your boyfriend, because you are underage. You don't want to push that envelope for obvious reasons.

    So, keep your lies straight.

    Try your best to realize that you are not thinking clearly, and in fact, doing yourself harm, and putting yourself at risk. Not to mention if you carry on this way, you are clearly heading down the path to being a parent to a child, when you are a child yourself.

    And then what do you expect your parents to do? Support you? Babysit while you go to school? Pay for diapers and formula? Not a prospect any parent would welcome, and you know that by your reckless behaviour, you are heading down that slippery slope.

    You are not an animal who cannot control yourself. You CAN control yourself. You can say no to sex, you can not pressure your boyfriend into having MORE sex, and you can avoid a lot of heartache for both your parents, by trying to be more responsible, and less demanding like some sort of princess.

    Give your head a shake here. Drop the boyfriend, and hold off on sex until you have SOME idea of what a relationship is first.

    If you are so out of control, that you cannot control yourself, please seek counselling to help put you out of harms' way.

    Society does not need to support yet another baby, from a teenager who, for the sake of a few sane moments, could have made better choices.
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    #53

    Aug 14, 2010, 04:47 PM

    I think she is a confused 15 year old who has gotten into things she does not understand.
    This boy from what I read has been her only sexual partner and they have had sex three times. She wanted more, he doesn't. He watches porn and she wants to shave herself the way the porn stars do. She wants to masturbate, he tells her not to because he says it will make her loose.
    These are obviously kids with no clue!

    She apparently tried to break up with him once and he tried to kill himself, has threatened to go into the military if she leaves him.
    These are both disturbed kids who don't need to be with each other and can use some counseling.

    As far as her dad, I don't know. He is raising her alone, has been since she was two. I don't think he abuses her but then again her boyfriend does by manipulating her. This whole thing is very sad.

    She needs help and so does the boyfriend.
    Young teens should not be engaging in sex, they don't know what they are doing and they are manipulating each other's lives and they don't even know it.

    I hope this young lady stays away from this boy and I hope she gets some counseling.
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    Aug 14, 2010, 06:11 PM

    Okay So Hope You People are Happy, I Broke Up With Him.
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    Aug 14, 2010, 06:20 PM

    That's good thing. Now I hope you will get yourself some help.
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    Aug 14, 2010, 06:26 PM

    How is it a good thing? Now I'm sad.
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    Aug 14, 2010, 06:30 PM

    All we want is what best for you. Did you not understand what we have been trying to tell you? Yes you will be sad for a bit, But this is a good thing for your future.
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    Aug 14, 2010, 06:37 PM
    Response About ; My (EX)Boyfriend & My Dad
    Soo. In You Guys Opinion The Advice MIGHT have helped to Me What it helped was, Him go to the military soon & Me be a depressed wreck. But Even Though The Advice only Got me sad, Still Thanks For All The help.
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    Aug 14, 2010, 06:51 PM

    What did he say when you told him goodbye?
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    Aug 14, 2010, 06:59 PM

    He said that he understands because he's older and basically almost an adult. And that he's going to the military to become more resobcible and etc,

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