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    #21

    Jul 1, 2010, 09:46 AM

    You also need to take into account the man who raised her. The man who she knows as Daddy.

    How does he feel about all this.
    I think maybe the daughter will be hurt for a while , but the one who raised her will always be Daddy.

    I don't mean to hurt you , but don't expect her to throw her arms around you and say she's happy. She's had one Daddy and that's the man who is really Daddy.
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    Jul 1, 2010, 09:49 AM

    I think her mother AND her father should tell her. It's unfortunate that so many people now know. But since they do, I agree the teenager needs to be told by her parents before any more time passes. I think it's important that they do it together so it's clear that her dad has known this and accepted and loved her anyway all her life. It has to be clear that this is not anything that is going to interfere with her relationship with him.

    It will be up to her if she wants to meet you. But that can wait. One thing at a time.
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    #23

    Jul 1, 2010, 09:53 AM

    I totally agree with asking.
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    Jul 1, 2010, 04:03 PM
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    I`ve asked about him but they have their own problems so she did not tell me much. I imagine he will do what is right.

    I`m prepared that she may only want to see my face once so anymore than that will be a huge bonus for me.

    I`m a pretty stable min
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    Jul 1, 2010, 04:07 PM
    I`ve asked about him but they have their own problems so she did not tell me much. I imagine he will do what is right.

    I`m prepared that she may only want to see my face once so anymore than that will be a huge bonus for me.

    I`m a pretty stable minded person so I`m not dreaming of a "happy ever after" I`m hoping for a happy ever after

    It was good for me to talk here.I have no one else to talk to about this.
    Thanks everybody... barry
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    Jul 1, 2010, 06:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gillad View Post
    I`ve asked about him but they have their own problems so she did not tell me much. I imagine he will do what is right.

    I`m prepared that she may only want to see my face once so anymore than that will be a huge bonus for me.

    I`m a pretty stable minded person so i`m not dreaming of a "happy ever after" i`m hoping for a happy ever after

    it was good for me to talk here.I have no one else to talk to about this.
    thanks everybody.....barry

    I think it will be rocky at first but it will smooth out. I also think she will grow to love you. You're welcome to post anytime and God Bless You.:)
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    Sep 13, 2011, 03:47 PM
    Hello... its been over a year since I asked for advice here and my daughter hasn't been told about me yet.im going to name my daughters mother "cass"... cass got professional advice last year and she agreed that her daughter had to be told but she wasn't ready to tell her and wanted to wait until she finished school.I agreed because I wasn't going to pressure her and I wanted this to be done right.I decided that id use the year to build a good trusting friendship with cass.she told me everything about my daughter and I was shown every picture of her.I bought my daughter a netbook for her birthday and cass and I were very happy and looking forward to the future... we met a few times and spoke on the phone but it was mostly texts... I started to feel she was texting me too much.it was 10 weeks of texts all day and night and in the end she confessed she loved me and had always loved me because she saw me every day in her daughter.. I was shocked and I had to tell her that I didn't love her and I was only here to meet my daughter... its been so hard to be friends since then because she wants more and kept hoping for more.. eventually she realised after 7 months that we wouldn't be together and she started to say that she may not be able to tell her daughter about me.. I was gentle and convinced her that she had to tell the truth... the main reason why she talked to me at first and told me about my daughter was because she thought we would get back together again...
    When my daughter finished school in June cass made an excuse and put off telling her for a few weeks and this happened all summer.I stayed calm because I didn't want to fight and I felt cass would tell her in the end.
    Two weeks ago she told me she was never going to tell her.shes afraid her daughter will hate her and I understand that.I have so much emotion for my daughter now and I can't walk away from this... I walked away 18 years ago because I wasn't wanted around and I was young... my daughter will find out about me some day and she will find out that I came close to meeting her and I gave up again!! I can't give up but what do I do.

    This gets even more complicated.I have a son and he is 6 months younger than my daughter.he has started to socialise a lot more over the last 6 months.he will soon be going to the same bars as my daughter and there is only one nightclub in town.they are going to be in the same social circle soon.they are both good looking and could easily be attracted to one another.. my son is Facebook friends with my daughters best friend and my son and daughter have about 10 mutual Facebook friends... I know Facebook friends aren't usually real friends but its all just too close and I can't ask him if he knows her... I have to tell my son about his sister but I can't say to him "this is your sister but dont tell anyone and dont contact her"

    I know I can't tell my daughter this but do I have the right to force cass into telling the truth?
    I feel I do have the right to do something because of the situation with my son and daughter
    My daughter will be 18 in a few weeks..
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    #28

    Sep 13, 2011, 06:11 PM
    I don't know. I would say when she turns 18 tell her. In fact I'd tell her mother you are going to tell her when she turns 18. But that's just me
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    #29

    Sep 14, 2011, 08:22 AM
    I'm glad you came back, gillad, to let us know how things are going. Because of your concerns about your son and daughter meeting socially, I agree they should know they are related. Please keep us informed.
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    #30

    Sep 14, 2011, 09:19 AM
    I agree they both need to know.

    Not to worry you, but my daughter has met most of her FaceBook friends in real life. Only a very few of them are friends of friends. They could very well have already met in passing many times without anyone knowing.

    Is Cass still in counseling? Would she feel safer telling your daughter with support from her counselor?
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    #31

    Sep 14, 2011, 01:41 PM
    Cass has been to a counselor once a year ago when I first contacted her... she won't ask anyone for help.she hasn't told her husband that I've been in contact... I don't think she will tell her daughter or anybody about me until she really has to.. I understand that this could destroy her relationship with her daughter and that's why she feels she has nothing to lose by waiting until the very end...

    My plan is to talk to my daughters sister(pam) .she is about 24 and may remember me.I used to play with her a lot but she might be too young to remember me.. if I tell pam everything she might help her mum through this but I will be putting her under a lot of pressure if her mum asks her to keep it a secret... it could tear the family apart... cass told me that somebody approached pam a few years ago and kept asking her about me.pam told him she didn't know me and asked her mum about me and cass said she didn't know anything about me... I think this person thought that pam was my daughter and was trying to cause trouble... if I talk to pam a lot of things are going to make sense to her.my daughter looks nothing like her sisters and people often joke with her that she must be adopted...

    Should I contact pam?
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    #32

    Sep 14, 2011, 02:01 PM
    What about giving Cass an ultimatum -- that you will make your move (but not say what it will be) by such-and-such date, giving Cass the chance to decide what to do.
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    #33

    Sep 14, 2011, 02:11 PM
    I've already done that and I feel terrible for doing it... when cass told me that she wasn't going to tell her daughter I got angry and said that I was going to do this my own way after her 18th birthday... im trying to figure out now what to do if she doesn't tell her... ill wait a month after her 18th and then I have to do something or walk away... I really can't see myself walking away so I'm going to talk to a councelor before I do anything
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    #34

    Sep 14, 2011, 02:19 PM
    Talking to a counselor would be good, but I would not bring the other daughter into the mix.
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    #35

    Sep 14, 2011, 02:31 PM
    Yes, definitely run it past an unbiased person who has been trained in human relationships.
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    #36

    Sep 14, 2011, 02:42 PM
    Bringing the other daughter into it has been my only real plan but if it's a bad idea then I won't do it.
    The only other thing I can think of is to approach my daughter and tell her my name.tell her I'm an old boyfreind of her mother and tell her to ask her mum about me and try to do it in a calm and friendly way but I think it would be too emotional for me to do... I might make a mess of it and she might think I was a weirdo and get scared... its a big mess!!
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    #37

    Sep 14, 2011, 03:41 PM
    When you talk to your daughter, it should not be under false pretenses. She will have had enough lying.
    When you talk to her, tell her the truth. Tell the mother that you are going to tell her when she turns 18 and leave it at that.

    Bringing the other daughter into it is not right. It is not her business and there is no reason she should be put in the middle.
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    #38

    Sep 14, 2011, 04:22 PM
    OK.. I won't bring the other daughter into it.I`ll talk to a councelor myself soon
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    #39

    Sep 14, 2011, 05:56 PM
    I think that would help you a great deal.

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