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nantiluk · Mar 16, 2010, 09:28 AM

Tank to bowl no water-flexilble water supply no water.you suggested gicarettes ashes on the bowl(porcelain part I guess)bowl must be wet also.

nantiluk · Mar 16, 2010, 09:29 AM

What is angle stop

Milo Dolezal · Mar 16, 2010, 09:31 AM

Angle stop is the valve that supplies toilet with water. There is a water supply connector attached to it connecting angle stop with toilet bowl.

nantiluk · Mar 16, 2010, 10:33 AM

Milo-tx.could I install another wax ring on top of the one I just removed but still attached to the bowl

Milo Dolezal · Mar 16, 2010, 10:35 AM

Yes, use the skinny wax ring ( without the flange )...

nantiluk · Mar 16, 2010, 11:19 AM

Milo-gone try it and see what happens.tx for all your help

Milo Dolezal · Mar 16, 2010, 11:28 AM

Let us know how how you did...

nantiluk · Mar 17, 2010, 10:19 AM

Milo-trying to post a picture to you.aint working?

nantiluk · Mar 17, 2010, 10:20 AM

Milo-finally got it going.What is this hole in the bowl? This was filled up with silicone.Could this cause the leak I am having.By the way my reinstall did not work.still leakage

speedball1 · Mar 17, 2010, 12:13 PM

Excellent advice from the other experts that covered all the bases except one. Wax seals are designed to prevent leakage from a discharge when you flush.
However, they are not designed to prevent a leakage if there's a partial blockage that bounces water back up the line and then drains away. Could it be that you have a partial clog that's sending water back up past the wax seal for a instant and then draining away?
I offer this because all the other reasons have been mentioned and I've run into it before.
Good luck, Tom

nantiluk · Mar 18, 2010, 05:55 AM

Tom
Tx for the comments.well I like to point out that at the present time only the bowl is installed no tank.I poured in a bit of water(24oz).also,I did not have any leakage
When my old bowl & tank were installed so there couldn't have been any back up right?In any event I am at a total loss as to what causes this leakage.Dont know what to do now.

Tom

What is this hole in the bowl.It was completely filled up with silicone.(see picture)

Here it is

speedball1 · Mar 18, 2010, 06:21 AM

What's the brand name on the bowl? The hiole looks like a jet.
Who filled it with Silicon Jel. If it came that way I'd ask for a replacement or purchase a major brand. Good luck Tom

nantiluk · Mar 18, 2010, 07:02 AM

This is a Crane bowl.and that is a major brand.hole was filled when I got it.Hole is also blind,doesn't lead anywhere.

Milo Dolezal · Mar 18, 2010, 07:07 AM

At this point I would plug the hole again. Maybe it should be plugged in first place. Or I would take it back to the store and exchange it for another bowl. There is slim chance 2 bowls will have same problem.

It is possible the hole is there left from manufacturing process. Since the bowl has hollow compartment I imagine the hole is there to vent hot gases during drying. Then it is plugged.

nantiluk · Mar 18, 2010, 11:12 AM

Milo-tx
I guess so. In any event it doesn't solve my problem.

mygirlsdad77 · Mar 18, 2010, 03:16 PM

At this point I would set the toilet up on a couple of sawhorses and run some water through it. This will show you if there is a leak in the underside of the bowl.

PS. Milo is correct, that hole that was filled with silicone needs to be filled with silicone, they come from the factory that way.

speedball1 · Mar 18, 2010, 04:16 PM

hole was filled when I got it.Hole is also blind,doesn't lead anywhere.

Milo, Lere,
Are you guys saying that this is a normal bowl and not a manufactures defect?
Is this the way toilet bowls are made now days? If so quality control sure has changed since I retired.
If this were my call I'd take that bowl back and exchange it for a siphon jet ( instead of a gravity flush wash down) bowl by a different manufacture If this were your customer would you install and guarantee the install?

It is possible the hole is there left from manufacturing process. Since the bowl has hollow compartment I imagine the hole is there to vent hot gases during drying. Then it is plugged.

I can't buy that Lee. When the factory makes a boo-boo they make a porcelain plug and hope it holds. In my time Briggs was great on passing defective bowls after they pligged a hole. Sometimes the patch held and sometimes we were out there replacing bowls under warranty. Talk to me guys! Would you install this bowl? Tom

nantiluk · Mar 19, 2010, 05:44 AM

mygirlsdad77

Tx for your sggestions.I did put the bowl on horses and filled it with water.After a while I checked it and there was absolutely no trace of any water.By the way I filled up that hole with silicone.

Milo Dolezal · Mar 19, 2010, 07:17 AM

Now, if there is a hole for water to get in - there has to be another hole for water to leak out. Did you look where the second hole is ?

Installing toilet is a one shot deal. We rarely have problems like yours and have to lift freshly set toilet. If I had to do it so many times as you - I would find it more economical to bring it back to the store for exchange or complain to the manufacturer requesting new replacement toilet with installation fee refund.

nantiluk · Mar 19, 2010, 08:10 AM

Milo-at this point I merely want to find out what is causing the leak.