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Nov 29, 2006, 07:20 PM
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FBI fingerprint identification
I know someone who has a class A felony conviction dating back to 30 years ago. When he was finger printed for a job at a bank, his report came back clean. He has been working there for two years now. How is that possible? Are files ever dropped from the database because of their age?
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Nov 29, 2006, 08:01 PM
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1. Ok, let me try and clear this up again, Fingerprint check only determines who they are, that they have not been arrested or registered under some other name.
2. You criminal background is found out their the NCIC report or criminal background, done at the same time, but not the same thing.
30 years ago, things were not put on computers, ( there were no computers) and unless the county court house where he was convicted has went back and added those past cases into the data bank, they can't be found without doing a physcial check of those court records.
Also was the felony explunged latter,
Were they convicted, not just charged ?
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Nov 29, 2006, 08:37 PM
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![Quote](custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
1. Ok, let me try and clear this up again, Fingerprint check only determines who they are, that they have not been arrested or registered under some other name.
2. You criminal background is found out thier the NCIC report or criminal background, done at the same time, but not the same thing.
30 years ago, things were not put on computers, ( there were no computers) and unless the county court house where he was convicted has went back and added those past cases into the data bank, they can't be found without doing a physcial check of those court records.
Also was the felony explunged latter,
were they convicted, not just charged ?
I don't want to get the guy identified, since he is a good citizen now. But he was arrested, convicted, and served 5 years in a federal prison. He wouldn't have applied, figuring he would just be rejected, but I told him "What the heck, see what happens." Turns out nothing happened. He is handling loans and mortgages and stuff like that now. I think he was around 25 when he was convicted, and there weren't any special circumstances that I know about.
I'm glad for him, because he is really a good guy. I don't think it always works like you see on CSI though.
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Nov 29, 2006, 08:50 PM
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Hello Floyd:
I have a few felonies myself dating to 1963. I recently ran a criminal background check on myself. Guess what? I'm a model citizen. I don't know why.
excon
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Nov 29, 2006, 09:32 PM
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![Quote](custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by excon
Hello Floyd:
I have a few felonies myself dating to 1963. I recently ran a criminal background check on myself. Guess what? I'm a model citizen. I dunno why.
excon
I'm glad for you. Maybe God gives people a break sometimes?
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Dec 2, 2006, 10:03 AM
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They may be. A 30-year-old conviction probably wouldn't carry much weight when it came to a mere banking job. Especially if it didn't involve any type of theft or white-collar crime.
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Mar 28, 2007, 06:02 PM
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![Quote](custom/vgo/images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by FloydV
I know someone who has a class A felony conviction dating back to 30 years ago. When he was finger printed for a job at a bank, his report came back clean. He has been working there for two years now. How is that possible? Are files ever dropped from the database because of their age?
Most employers only go back 10 years. Some 7 but banks usually 10.
Hopr this helps
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Apr 5, 2008, 06:51 PM
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Also, depends on the state. For instance, if you look at the fine detail of most companies that perform background checks you will see that New Jersey only goes back to 1984. So the question is, if you had a convistion prior to 1984 will it show up on a bckground check?
I don't think so.
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Jun 10, 2010, 06:33 PM
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Well sometimes the computer systems can't hold records going back past a certain point like the NY State Office Of Court Administration computer search goes back to 1981 and 1976 in certain jurisdictions, so the records may not show on a computer search but they still can be researched by paying extra fees to search them. There is always a paper file no matter how old it is
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