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Brownsugar · Nov 25, 2006, 11:33 PM

Well I'm back to update on what happened. I went to the check up but they haven't tested me yet cause I have to go on a 10 hour fast before hand. As far as them checking for pot I asked another doctor and he said they wouldn't check me unless I asked asked them to. My family doctor gave me a sheet on which he check marked what he was looking for including blood glucose.ect.. he didn't check the box where it says (drug screen test) so I'm pretty sure that would have been the test for that. I can go for the ACTUAL checkup anytime but it doesn't matter cause I'm not worried anymore.

As far as what else has been brought up and said on here, I can't agree more with the point talaniman was making. My view on drugs as a whole excluding marijuana is negative.

worthbeads · Nov 26, 2006, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Brownsugar

As far as what else has been brought up and said on here, i can't agree more with the point talaniman was making. my view on drugs as a whole excluding marijuana is negative.

What do you mean excluding marijuana? Listen, you have to get this straight. Marijuana is bad for you and you have a serious addiction. That's what pretty much everyone here is saying. You're in denial, and the first step of losing an addiction is admitting you have a problem.

talaniman · Nov 26, 2006, 05:02 AM

Because you use illegal drugs does not make you an addict. Under the law you are a criminal. Because you drink does not make you an alcoholic. Under the law you are not even a criminal. When your use of whatever, causes problems in your life, and you cannot change it, then you may be considered an addict (or alcoholic). To put a blanket over all who get high is not realistic or fair as there are plenty who Do have this problem and would have it no matter what their drug (drink) of choice may be. Aspirin, and prescription drugs are just as bad for you as anything the sleazeball down the street is selling so we should be very careful of the labels we put on people.

What do you mean excluding marijuana? Listen, you have to get this straight. Marijuana is bad for you and you have a serious addiction.

Anything that is not self moderated is dangerous from sex to gambling and everything in between. Addiction is a disease you never "loose" you can only take steps to keep it from affecting your life. Abstinance is the only 100% guarantee to controlling addiction and pregnancy. Dependency on any thing that makes you feel good is often a symptom of a deeper problem that has to be dealt with. To not address the root cause defeats the whole purpose in trying not to abuse substances or ones self.

valinors_sorrow · Nov 26, 2006, 06:53 AM

I am glad you got the answer to your question Brownsugar. And for the record, there is such a thing as recreational use of pot (meaning its not from the need to fill an addiction) just as there is for smoking cigarettes, drinking, gambling, shopping, internetting, drugs etc. While weed is illegal, its up to each person what their moral compass says about stuff like that. We are all adults here. I did not mean to set off such a tangent on addiction asking a few simple questions back there. There isn't enough "evidence" here to suggest to me that Brownsugar is addicted -- there are quite a few criteria that must be met for it to qualify -- any decent professional in the recovery business will substantiate that. All I meant to do was point out what MIGHT BE a slippery slope in some of the thinking I saw Brownsugar exhibiting. That was all... ey carumba? LOL

talaniman · Nov 26, 2006, 08:01 AM

It seems as though when the poster doesn't comeback often enough, we start talking to ourselves. So I apologise if any one took my mini rant personally. No offense intended as I know this is a hot subject to many (ME)

ordinaryguy · Nov 26, 2006, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

It seems as though when the poster doesn't comeback often enough, we start talking to ourselves. So I apologise if any one took my mini rant personally. No offense intended as I know this is a hot subject to many (ME)

Yeah, me too, and apparently Worthbeads as well. I hate to see misinformation promoted as gospel truth, but have decided he's far enough over the top that anybody who has any actual knowledge will realize how silly it is.

As far as Brownsugar is concerned, I think she's fine, and has probably lost interest in following our rants. Good for her, I say.

Brownsugar · Dec 6, 2006, 02:23 PM

UPDATE: I went to the check up 2 days ago, got the results and I'm clean of anything. Perfectly healthy! Thanks to many of your replies I felt better during the waiting days!

Thank you

worthbeads · Dec 6, 2006, 03:07 PM

You still haven't told us if you're going to quit.

excon · Jan 10, 2007, 09:07 AM

Hello:

I don't know nuttin about pot (or marijahoochie as my friends call it), but I know this much. IF your doctor performed a drug test on you for any number of different reasons, he couldn't tell your mother what the results were. You're an adult. What happens between you and your doctor REMAINS between you and your doctor - even when you're not in Vegas.

excon

PS> Ere, worthbeads, smoke some of this... You'll feel better...

schofield · Jan 10, 2007, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Brownsugar

Ok my mother is forcing me to go for a medicals check up cause i havent had one in like years and for some reason she thinks i could have diebeties cause she sees me eating too many sweets (rolls eyes) i know its rediculose but now im freaking out cause i just relized there gonna check my urine, blood, ect.. and... im just wondering if they can see that i have marijuana in my system. I dont smoke it all the time just once in a while last time was like friday nov 17 my check up is on tuesday can find anything if there not looking for it? help anyone who knows cause if they can im just gonna stale untill maybe another month if i can :(

any advice will be greatly appreciated

Thanks!

The only way for them to find out is if the do a tox screen. Witch they don't do unless the use of drugs was brought up. Same with your pee it's not tested unless they have a reason.

J_9 · Jan 10, 2007, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Brownsugar

UPDATE: i went to the check up 2 days ago, got the results and im clean of anything. Perfectly healthy! Thanks to many of your replies i felt better during the waiting days!

Thankyou

Hey guys, did you all read the post above? It was dated December 6. So, she has her answers now.:p

wanger · Jan 10, 2007, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello:

I don't know nuttin about pot (or marijahoochie as my friends call it), but I know this much. IF your doctor performed a drug test on you for any number of different reasons, he couldn't tell your mother what the results were. You're an adult. What happens between you and your doctor REMAINS between you and your doctor - even when you're not in Vegas.

excon

PS> Ere, worthbeads, smoke some of this....... You'll feel better...

Yea, I know this, but if this person's parent has it done and they are under 16 then the doctor can give them the results, but they have to be looking for it to find it.

sodaspritz · Jan 10, 2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Brownsugar

Ok my mother is forcing me to go for a medicals check up cause i havent had one in like years and for some reason she thinks i could have diebeties cause she sees me eating too many sweets (rolls eyes) i know its rediculose but now im freaking out cause i just relized there gonna check my urine, blood, ect.. and... im just wondering if they can see that i have marijuana in my system. I dont smoke it all the time just once in a while last time was like friday nov 17 my check up is on tuesday can find anything if there not looking for it? help anyone who knows cause if they can im just gonna stale untill maybe another month if i can :(

any advice will be greatly appreciated

Thanks!

I'm sure they have to be looking for drugs in your blood, if its not something they are looking for I don't think it will come up.

J_9 · Jan 10, 2007, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by sodaspritz

I'm sure they have to be looking for drugs in your blood, if its not something they are looking for I dont think it will come up.

I'm sorry. I just have to laugh at this. Drugs can be found in your urine, saliva, hair, fingernails. Not just blood.

wanger · Jan 10, 2007, 12:39 PM

If you are all that worried about it, just don't smoke anymore until after the urine and blood test, but they have to be looking for it to find it and from what you just said, she is looking to see if you are diabetic. I wouldn't worry too much. I don't think they will find out. Like I just said. They have to be looking for it to find it. If you are over 16 years I don't think that the doctor can disclose it to your parents anyway, so if it comes up with the docor and you are over 16 then just simply tell him you don't want your mom to know.

wanger · Jan 10, 2007, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by J_9

I'm sorry. I just have to laugh at this. Drugs can be found in your urine, saliva, hair, fingernails. Not just blood.

This is known by most people, but the most common way to test for it is through the urine. I have heard that law inforcement now has a saliva test that they can use on the spot and it's sup[posed to be very accurate.

J_9 · Jan 10, 2007, 12:48 PM

Understand Wanger that this person already had her tests and got the results back. I doubt if we will hear from her again.

worthbeads · Jan 10, 2007, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello:

PS> Ere, worthbeads, smoke some of this....... You'll feel better...

I think you should stop giving people wrong ideas.
And stop steaming me up so much I make permanent grammatical errors.

wanger · Jan 11, 2007, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by ordinaryguy

Yes, pot is illegal. Whether smoking it is immoral is a matter of opinion. Personally, I don't think so. It is not lethal. There is a growing body of evidence that it has theraputic value, but there is still room for scientific debate and a need for more research. It is not physically (biochemically) addictive, though excessive use of it would fit within some definitions of addiction. You may believe that it's immoral and unwise, but please don't propogate misinformation.

Though it is not biochemically addictive, to some it is mentally addictive. I have a friend that was mentally addicted for years and he finally went into rehab and got straighten out. He lost 4 jobs in 2 years because of the random drug screening, but he is straight now and has held down the same job for almost 2 1/2 years. It doesn't affect everyone this way. Some can smoke it and forget it for weeks on end and don't have any problem doing without it.

excon · Jan 11, 2007, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by worthbeads

I think you should stop giving people wrong ideas.

Hello worth:

Actually, my information is 100% accurate. YOUR ideas are the wrong ones. I'll be happy to discuss it with you anytime. Maybe we should start our own thread. I'll leave it to the moderators.

Let's start with this. Marijuana never killed anybody - not a soul - not ever, and that's a fact. Tobacco kills 450,000 people in this country every year. Who sells tobacco? Your friendly 7/Eleven on the corner. That drug dealer is responsible for more deaths in THIS country than ALL the illegal drugs combined - ALL OF THEM.

What are YOU doing about that? Do you shop at those stores?? I'll bet you do. Why would you do that? They're killers! Did you shop at one of those stores on the same day you told the pot smoker how bad he was?? I'll bet you did.

Tell me the above isn't 100% true.

excon