[twinkiedooter]

You know I just happened to remember one thing about Canada. There is a gun ban in Canada and normal citizens are not allowed to own handguns period.

Please explain to me just HOW did her parents even get a gun in the first place? Did they have this weapon illegally or is one parent in law enforcement? Either way, the parents are in big trouble as well having a gun readily available for their daughter to bring to school to terrorize the bullies. It seems that the entire family is in big trouble.

Canadian citizens are not supposed to be gun owners. They are supposed to be gun less.

Please enlighten us here at AMHD how this gun magically appeared in the 15 year old's household??

As far as I know Canada has even banned wooden nunchucks (two wooden sticks connected with a cord) used in martial arts. You can be arrested at the border if you have them in your car. They can deem you a weapons trafficker!

The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards the parents and the 15 year old child all sitting in jail.

[ac101]

You know I just happened to remember one thing about Canada. There is a gun ban in Canada and normal citizens are not allowed to own handguns period.

You learn something new everyday wow gun ban didn't know that.

[twinkiedooter]

Gun politics in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is a rather interesting article about Canadian gun laws in Wikipedia. It does reiterate how the government will allow you to own a handgun, but you must meet certain criteria and you must have a license to purchase and own the gun and have a license to transport the weapon as well. And the Wiki article does state that gun licenses are not generally available for handguns.

[ac101]

Great article twink!

[mudweiser]

I'd also like to ask..

When did this happen?


School is out till September or late August in Quebec...

If this happened before school ended she would've already at least had a trial...

I'm also sure she would've been in jail right now, Quebec isn't Texas- they're not used to guns. Besides Quebequers would be calling the police ASAP... they just love that 3 digit number..

Just sayin'...

Sarah

[JudyKayTee]

Folks, I think we've been - at best - trolled!

[JudyKayTee]

Judy you are correct and I guess my point was at 15 she should have known better and her parents were negligent in not teaching her. Im not sure a fine would make a difference at this point but I guess it would be better than nothing. Great advice as usual. AC

Out of greenies so here's a pretend greenie - it's so good to be able to have a minor disagreement, understand each other and move on.

I certainly see your point of view and it is obvious that you can see mine.

Good interplay here!

[smoothy]

Folks, I think we've been - at best - trolled!

I have to agree.(I have to spread the rep around before I can give you a greenie).. I may not know Canadian law at all... but here in the USA that's a VERY serious offense. No insanity pleas there... we have zero tollerance rules and its usually permanent expulsion from the school system in addition to any criminal and/or civil punishments that the court may hand out.

The penalty for being a troll however is public humiliation and having laughing townfolk throw feces at you, as you are bound in the stocks in the town square for a period.

[ac101]

Yep judy I believe your right besides how boring would life be if we all agreed on everything. :D oh and well said smoothy

[kathyrules123]

My niece is 15 years old and she got extremely angry at some students at her school, they were picking on herm sending her messages, spreading rumors, and she has many stress and trust issues already. It was too much for her to take and she decided to sneak her parent's gun to school and she pointed it at one of the people who were making her life so much harder than it needed to be. She did not hurt them she honestly just wanted to scare them! Can anybody tell me what the consequences might be? If she pleads insanity what happens??

Its okay if she is still doing it u can tell her to stop but that wasn't all a great help so if u need any help u can go to Yahoo and text me at EMAIL REMOVED FOR PRIVACY:)

[JudyKayTee]

its okay if she is still doing it u can tell her to stop but that wasnt all a great help so if u need any help u can go to yahoo and text me at EMAIL REMOVED FOR PRIVACY:)

First, you aren't supposed to ask that a subject be taken off the board.

Second, PLEASE STOP THE TEXT SPEAK - this is a legal board. What is your advice? Tell her to stop is your advice. Stop what? It sounds like the Police have already stopped her.

Did you actually read the question - ?

[Alty]

I am not a legal expert, but I am a Canadian and because my husband has rifles, I do know a bit about owning a gun in Canada.

My husband has rifles from his father and my father, the amount of paper work and begging involved would blow your mind.

Not only does he have to register each rifle every year, he has to pay a hefty fee in order to keep them. We don't even use them, he only has them because they are old, sentimental etc.

These rifles (under Canadian law) must be locked away in a rifle safe. The bullets have to be locked in a different safe. This is just for a rifle. If, for some reason, the police come to your house and see the rifle out in the open, or the lock box unlocked, well be prepared to be cuffed, taken away and charged to the full extent of the law.

Owning a gun, no way! Unless you're a police officer, no go. You can look at guns, you can shop for guns, but buying a gun, not going to happen.

If the OP isn't a troll, not only is the 15 year old facing time in prison, but her parents are as well, because I doubt the gun is registered and obviously it wasn't kept in a safe box.

Once again, not a legal expert, just a Canadian who happens to know what it takes to own weapons here.

[twinkiedooter]

Alty - Thanks for the detailed outline above regarding gun ownership in Canada. I knew it was almost impossible to buy a gun but you spelled it out for us.

I think we've been trolled or the parents had an illegal gun in their home as they were probably criminals who bought it on the black market. Anything can be bought on the black market.

[N0help4u]

I was going to mention the fact that it could not be her gun so she has somebody in serious trouble but I see Alty beat me to it.

She can claim she is insane, she can even get psychiatric help but she has some serious consequences to face here.

I just don't understand in this day and age how people commit crimes when they know you don't say BOMB in an airport, you don't take guns and threaten people, you know security and cameras can be almost anywhere and Big Brother is watching.

[earl237]

I heard of similar situations in the past. The good news is that the girl is only 15 so even if charged, she will not have serious consequences or a criminal record since no one was hurt and there were mitigating circumstances, (bullying). Having some teachers testifying to the judge that she is a good kid and a victim of bullying would be a major help so try to get statements from teachers who know her and her situation. I'm more worried about her parents, it wasn't said how their firearm was stored, but if it wasn't stored under lock and key with ammunition separate as Altenweg mentioned, they could be charged with improper storage of a firearm which can have serious consequences. I just hope they got a lawyer before making any statements or admissions to the police. Police love to pick on law abiding firearm owners for relatively minor infractions instead of going after real criminals.

[justcurious55]

Being a victim of bullying does not excuse her actions or justify them in anyway. Since when do two wrongs make a right? I hope she faces very serious consequences. There's already been too many school shootings. Too many students have already died for no good reason. What if that gun had been loaded? If she doesn't even have the good sense to NOT bring a gun into school in the first place who knows if she even knew how to check if it was loaded or not? Or how to use it?

[smoothy]

In the USA, adult type crimes receive adult type sentances... and rightfully so. A 15 year old knows exactly what they are doing... you can't make that same argument for a 5 year old.

Because she was being bullied is a lame excuse. She should have gone to the school administrators if that was happening and let them deal with it. And alternatively... if she was big enough to bring a gun... then she was big enough to take care of it one on one. Cowards resort to using a gun over petty squabbles.

Its obviously NOT a life or death situation, thus no justification not even by USA standards of self defense which are decidedly different from Canadas.

Under OUR USA laws taking a gun after the event and even threatening to use it makes the crime premeditated. And in most cases voids any self defense claim that otherwise may have been made. And makes any temporary insanity defence far more diffucult to defend.

Personally I think Canadas laws are geared more to protecting the criminal than the victims. But that's immaterial as she screwed up bad the minute she picked up that gun before she even left the house, much less entered the school.

Here we are taught you do not play with a gun, they are not toys... You never point it at someone unless you are prepared to pull the trigger that very moment, and you never threaten to use it unless you are prepared to pull that trigger right then and there.

And above all, you better be damn sure you are in the right before you do, because you will have to answer to authorities if you use it and weren't.

And there are certain cases where you are in the right... You are in your house and you believe the intruder is threatening your physical well being, or you are in a life threatening situation where your life is at risk by an assailent if you don't shoot him or her first. But that last case you better have a right to carry or a license to carry where you are.

Yes I do realise those would NOT apply in Canada at least as I understand it.

Basically they are not toys... treat them like they are and suffer the consequences.