[albear]

Hi, I've seen all these threads about writing songs and getting help with doing so, so if its all right id like to give it a try, I play the guitar, albeit not that well, and that's really the extent of my musical expertese :D, so any help on where to start and how would be great, thanks :D

[BackFrumTheDead]

What kind of music? I have friends that write music just for fun. They say that the easiest way is that once you come up with a name for your song its like writing a 3 minute story about that word.

[albear]

Hmmm thanks, I've already tried writing lyrics but haven't hiven it a title yet, also I was thinking more along the lines of guitar solo apart from the choruses, kind of slow rock if you know what I mean, but... I can't think of a tune. And my lyrics that I've written down need work :)

[Clough]

Hi, albear!

I've received your emails as well as private messages.

It's not hard. The important thing is just to start it.

As I've already mentioned to you, I can help you with all aspects of writing a song.

But, you do fear about it being something that's personal here...

If I were to help you on this site, that is something that I will help you with for free. If it goes beyond being on this site, well that is something that I would need to charge you for what I've provided to you.

If it happens on this site, then it's free!

I have no problem with people using the music that I've written on this site in other ways. I would also hope that you don't have a problem with others using the lyrics that you've written.

What us written this site can be a help to you in how to compose songs. It's not the end of the line here...

I hope that you understand. I think that you do. It's just the way things are...

I can think of tunes instantly, albear! It's part of the "gift" that I have.

Thanks!

[albear]

Yea, your right about me being hesitant because it's a bit personal, but no I don't mind others using whatever I write,

[BackFrumTheDead]

Have you tried listening to slow rock singers? You know.. maybe get an insperation, come up with ideas, I'm not saying copy them just gets some ideas:D:D

[albear]

Yeah, which is why id like it to be in that style, well also because I think it fits the words as well.
So I take it you'd like me to post up the bit I have done so you can help me with refining it and helping me creating a tune

[Clough]

Hi, albear!

Would you please post at least a couple lines of lyrics that you would like to have set to music?

Thanks!

[albear]

Reet, this is what I've got for the first verse:

Did you ever wonder if you were good enough for the people around you,
For the people who you care for,
For the people that care about you.
Did you ever want to make the world a better place
Did you ever wonder if the world would be a better place without you

[Clough]

I'll work on that and get back to you here, albear.

Thanks!

[albear]

I'll work on that and get back to you here, albear.

Thanks!

Thanks :)

[BackFrumTheDead]

lol sounds great, have you tried the typical method of repeating the same verse and then changing the words around? kind of like the songs that repeat the same word (name of the song) over and over again.


i dont know if that style works for you but it seems to work for the pros.

[albear]

lol sounds great, have you tried the typical method of repeating the same verse and then changing the words around? kind of like the songs that repeat the same word (name of the song) over and over again.


i dont know if that style works for you but it seems to work for the pros.

I want the song to progress with each verse, but returns to the same chorus

[BackFrumTheDead]

I think it would be best then if clough helped you out the rest f the way I was just giving any advice my friends would give me. All I got now is try putting how you feel into the song instead of making something up. Good luck :D :D :D

[albear]

i think it would be best then if clough helped you out the rest f the way i was just giving any advice my friends would give me. all i got now is try putting how you feel into the song instead of making something up. good luck :D :D :D

OK, thanks for the advice though :)

[Clough]

reet, this is what ive got for the first verse:

Did you ever wonder if you were good enough for the people around you,
for the people who you care for,
for the people that care about you.
Did you ever want to make the world a better place
Did you ever wonder if the world would be a better place without you

Do You Ever Wonder?

Did you ever wonder if you were good enough
For the people all around you,
For the people who you care for,
For the people that care about you.

Did you ever want to make the world a better place
Did you ever wonder if the world would be a better place without you

Hi again, albear!

Okay, I've added the word "all" to the first verse so that it's a little more balanced for a melody. I've already got a melody in my head for this.

What would you think about using those last two lines for the chorus? Also, can you read music with notes that are on staves?

Do you think that Do You Ever Wonder? Sounds good for the title?

Thanks!

[albear]

Do You Ever Wonder?

Did you ever wonder if you were good enough
for the people all around you,
for the people who you care for,
for the people that care about you.

Did you ever want to make the world a better place
Did you ever wonder if the world would be a better place without you

Hi again, albear!

Okay, I've added the word "all" to the first verse so that it's a little more balanced for a melody. I've already got a melody in my head for this.

What would you think about using those last two lines for the chorus? Also, can you read music with notes that are on staves?

Do you think that Do You Ever Wonder? sounds good for the title?

Thanks!

Hi again, thanks clough, yea the 'all' looks all right

That was intended to be the first verse out of the five that I've written
This was what I thought could be the chorus:

How can we tell, how can we trust those around us, to tell the truth, how can we trust ourselves, to believe the truth,
What are the tell tale signs
How can I believe people like me when I don’t like me
How can people stand to be near me when I don’t want to be near me
Why can't I see why they say nice things about me,
Do I truly believe that I am such an undeserving person
How ?

As for 'Do You Ever Wonder?' for the title, I don't think it fits to be honest

Its been a long time since I've read music, I've fogotten what notes they mean now, however I'm more familiar with tab if that helps?

[Clough]

I can write in tabs, but it would be quicker with actual notes. I'm not all that familiar with tabs, but I do have a program that will write them.

I'll work with your chorus later tonight.

It's important that lines of the lyrics be about the same length in order to fit with a melody and rhythm the best. Also, it helps to have an even number of lines for verses and the chorus.

Thanks!

[albear]

I can write in tabs, but it would be quicker with actual notes. I'm not all that familiar with tabs, but I do have a program that will write them.

I'll work with your chorus later tonight.

It's important that lines of the lyrics be about the same length in order to fit with a melody and rhythm the best. Also, it helps to have an even number of lines for verses and the chorus.Thanks!

Yea sorry abou that ill have to devote some more time to work on them. I've only bolded them so they stand out when I re read to remind me.

Do you want me to post up the rest of what I've done so far or work on this now and post it later?

Thanks

[Clough]

I think that it would be best to work on a little bit at a time. So, I would suggest that you post additional things later.

Thanks!