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snake187 · May 10, 2009, 11:10 AM

My friend got in to accident in a company vehicle. It was his fault but no one was hurt and there was no alcohol or drugs in system. It was just a normal every day accident. My question is how can the company make him pay for the damages out his pocket. The company has fully covered insurance on all there vehicles. Is that even leagel

JudyKayTee · May 10, 2009, 11:12 AM

Need more info - the employer is refusing to turn the accident over to the insurance company OR the employer is asking your friend to pay the deductible?

What does the employment contract say?

And, yes, if the employer takes your friend to Court for the deductible, the employer will undoubtedly win.

I'm an accident investigator - what is a normal, every day accident?

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Need more info - the employer is refusing to turn the accident over to the insurance company OR the employer is asking your friend to pay the deductible?

What does the employment contract say?

And, yes, if the employer takes your friend to Court for the deductible, the employer will undoubtedly win.

I'm an accident investigator - what is a normal, every day accident?

My friend did not pay the deductible he had to the (full price of damages ) it was pay or loose your job and his boss made him sign a piece of paper saying he would pay. Also a normal accident means not (HIGH /DRUNK) while on your way to work in the morning.

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by snake187

my friend did not pay the deductible he had to the (full price of damages ) it was pay or loose your job and his boss made him sign a piece of paper saying he would pay. also a normal accident means not (HIGH /DRUNK) while on your way to work in the morning.

Also my friend never went to court. His boss did not turn it in to insurance company and kept the money for his self. I assume that's what happened I don't know.

Wondergirl · May 10, 2009, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by snake187

also my friend never went to court. his boss did not turn it in to insurance company and kept the money for his self. i assume thats what happened i don't know.

Your friend should talk with the claims adjuster who handled the accident and also find out what an employee's responsibility is for damages when he is at fault in an accident with a company car.

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Your friend should talk with the claims adjuster who handled the accident and also find out what an employee's responsibility is for damages when he is at fault in an accident with a company car.

There was no claims ajuster who handled the accident it was closed case either you pay for all damages or loose your job the only person my friend talked to was his boss. What I'm trying to say nothing went on the books leagely that's my friends boss did what did and got away with it.

Wondergirl · May 10, 2009, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by snake187

there was no claims ajuster who handled the accident it was closed case either you pay for all damages or loose your job the only person my friend talked to was his boss. what im trying to say nothing went on the books leagely thats my friends boss did what did and got away with it.

Was the car repaired? You know for sure this is what happened?

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Was the car repaired? You know for sure this is what happened?

Yes I know for sure I used to work there. Yes but it was not for about a year after the accident the truck was finally fixed.

Wondergirl · May 10, 2009, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by snake187

yes i know for sure i used to work there. yes but it was not for about a year after the accident the truck was finally fixed.

Who paid for the repairs? How was the amount of damage determined? Is this a small company, and is the boss the owner?

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Who paid for the repairs? How was the amount of damage determined? Is this a small company, and is the boss the owner?

Boss is not the owner. My friend paid for the repairs total was $2200 dollars and the company is not small they are nation wide. Also this happened to more than 1 person.

Wondergirl · May 10, 2009, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by snake187

boss is not the owner. my friend payed for the repairs total was $2200 dollars and the company is not small they are nation wide. also this happened to more than 1 person.

Is there an HR department? What are the terms of employment with respect to accidents?

Did the same boss do this with other employees? If so, why hasn't the company noticed damaged vehicles and heard about this scam?

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Is there an HR department? What are the terms of employment with respect to accidents?

Did the same boss do this with other employees? If so, why hasn't the company noticed damaged vehicles and heard about this scam?

I'm not sure what the company policy is on accidents. The company knows about the accidents but they are in on it and let it happen.

Wondergirl · May 10, 2009, 12:42 PM

A national company?? I wonder if you have your facts straight.

Your friend should find out the company policy regarding accidents when driving company vehicles.

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

A national company????? I wonder if you have your facts straight.

Your friend should find out the company policy regarding accidents when driving company vehicles.

If I'm not mistaken I don't think that we were allowed to see the company policy. They would consider that a threat.

Alty · May 10, 2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by snake187

if im not mistaken i don't think that we were allowed to see the company policy. they would consider that a threat.

A threat?

That makes no sense.

Most companies, especially a huge corporation, have a handbook for all employees stating company policy. Why would it be considered a threat to state company policy?

Something doesn't sound right here.

Wondergirl · May 10, 2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by snake187

if im not mistaken i don't think that we were allowed to see the company policy. they would consider that a threat.

Oh, c'mon! A nationwide company? Any company worth its salt doesn't operate like that. Does the company have a web site?

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Altenweg

A threat?

That makes no sense.

Most companies, especially a huge corporation, have a handbook for all employees stating company policy. Why would it be considered a threat to state company policy?

Something doesn't sound right here.

Let me put it this way a friend of I worked with at the same company got hurt on the job they (tried to make it look like it never happened) this very true it is no joke that's kind of people I used to work for.

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Oh, c'mon! A nationwide company? Any company worth its salt doesn't operate like that. Does the company have a web site?

Yes they have a web site but I will not release that information. No offence I don't know who you are. Believe what you want I don't care. I know what on there I worked there.

Wondergirl · May 10, 2009, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by snake187

let me put it this way a friend of i worked with at the same company got hurt on the job they (tried to make it look like it never happened) this very true it is no joke thats kind of people i used to work for.

Then why has no one ever gone to a lawyer about this?

snake187 · May 10, 2009, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Then why has no one ever gone to a lawyer about this?

Many people have tried and failed. Its hard to prove a company wrong when you no actual evidence, documentation, or even a witness to what goes on exspeaily if they work there. I seen the boss fire a crew of guys one time because they went off to take lunch. No lie.