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    Sep 17, 2006, 03:06 AM
    Anarchism, chaos? Or improvement
    Anarchism; without government, order or law. Some people think total chaos, I say improvement. Sure it has its flaws but then again it has its benefits. The government wants u to believe law is necessary , but if people have freedom they would not abuse it because it would be all about survival. Is it wrong to have this feeling?
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    Sep 17, 2006, 07:03 AM
    In that aspect of course if you had electric power the company could cut you off anytime they wanted and make you pay a reconnect fee, you tell them you have made your payemnts, they say, yes, but they don't care, there is no law to make them not keep charging you more andmore

    You have a nice car, I like it, so I go shoot you and take it, that is OK, since there is no car.

    So law aways comes out of chaos because soon people will ban together to protect thierself, in this banning together they will have rules of some level as to their relationship. These rules will be laws, if only in oral nature and loosely enforced.
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    Sep 17, 2006, 09:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by 2kool2
    ... if people have freedom they would not abuse it ...
    1. This presumes that anarchy=freedom.

    2. Look at all the people who abuse the freedom we already have. Do you think "more freedom" means less abuse, crime, evil, etc.

    I propose no way.
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    Sep 17, 2006, 09:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by 2kool2
    Anarchism; without government, order or law. some people think total chaos, i say improvement. sure it has its flaws but then again it has its benefits. the government wants u to belive law is necessary , but if people have freedom they would not abuse it because it would be all about survival. is it wrong to have this feeling?
    The problem is that each concept of survival and what constitutes justifiable survival behavior will be different and result in the strong overpowering the weak or weaker and depriving them of their human rights. It's called the law of the jungle and human history is full of it. Even in democracies such as that of the USA citizens tend to take the law into their own hands when they feel that the justice system is not doing things the right way. This has resulted in the establishment of vigilante style groups which systematically target harass other citizens which they feel deserve to be harassed. So if this happens despite the law, imagine if there were no law at all!

    http://www.multistalkervictims.org/terstalk.htm
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    Oct 21, 2006, 07:10 AM
    The government is already anarchy and chaos. They are leading us into a world that knows nothing but war. How on earth do they expect to get peace from war. They let the very people that threaten us live amognst us without the right permits and they pay for them to live here as well. Now we have two escaped terrorist considered to be very dangerous running around england.

    The government will fall and so will its people, unless we are prepared.
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    Nov 6, 2006, 06:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by RickJ
    1. This presumes that anarchy=freedom.

    2. Look at all the people who abuse the freedom we already have. Do you think "more freedom" means less abuse, crime, evil, etc. ?

    I propose no way.
    I second that...

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