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Kaballah and christianity
I stopped going to church I year ago I found it to be a complete waste of time. Prior to that I went every week and gave large sums of money to the church 500-1000 dollars on many occasions. When going to church I always felt closer to god when I was actually in the building. Once I left the church that high was gone, till the following Sunday when I went back.
I discovered kaballah ( which is a spiritual teaching and bot a religion) now I feel god is always with me he is in me and I am god, that's why we where all created in his likeness. My question is how do I explain to my christian friends that jesus christ is not my lord and saviour, without them taking offense? Also how do I avoid their invitations to the church on a constant basis without sounding rude? How can I tell them that god is in your heart and you don't need to go to a church or belong to a religion to be close to him. I am the most happiest I've been since I left the church, I meditate every Saturday and try to surround myself with the light of the creator. |
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Why do you not believe in Jesus? Does he not teach the same things you describe? Why would you give so much money? God is everywhere, within all of us. We are all his creation. I do not think it was so much the church but just you yourself needed something different and a new perspective about yourself for feeling God within you at all times. It is not the churches fault, but something that was within you... Everybody has there own personal spiritual walk to make. Joe |
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 Originally Posted by Jesushelper76
1) I believe that jesus did exsist and he was all powerful, sweet and he emulates what we are all striving to achieve which is oneness with God. 2.) I see jesus as the highest of the high in my kabahlistic beliefs, his greatest parable was to " love thy neighbor as thyself" and that is what are I'm striving to do. 3.) jesus does not solve our problems we do, I still do believe in jusus its just that my views on him have changed. He is not my saviour I am my own saviour, and it's the church that insist on putting jesus in the middle of our relationship with god as has branded him as our lord and saviour and its only through him salvation comes and that is where I disagree with the churches doctrine. 4)I believe the churches propaganda is what has led the masses astray, in thinking that we need to belong to a religion to believe in God. 5) Church and religion is what divides all human beings in this lifetime and it also limits us to the rules and moral obligation of the set religion. 6) how we live by jesus teaching and love thy neighbour when we disagree or dislike their spiritual beliefs. 7.) I see jesus as a master kabahlist Religion is the cause of so many wars and conflict if everyone just believed in God with out the banner of religion this world would be a better place. I have found my happiness with meditation and connecting to the light force of God and as the bible stated jesus often meditated and fasted to connect to the light of God. To me there is no better spiritual high than being in the presence of god, mind body and soul, it's a high and a light that beams within you, that no preacher can ever find the words to preach to allowing you to enter into such an overwhelming interaction with the creator. So I ask you now who do you think emulates the spirit of God the most a person that meditates and connects to Gods light or a christian that goes to church and follows the motions of the church and leaves the church feeling empty inside and no better than when the first came into the church. As human beings we just want a connection with God. I am more happy now not going to church than I have ever been in my life and the money I use to give to the church I now give more to homeless people and charity. I also value human beings more and every hardship I face now I know its all part of my souls correction and destiny in this life. |
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Hey Lady!
We are continuously being processed. Thank goodness that his mercy is new w/ each day! I'm glad to hear your love for the Lord & Saviour, Jesus!;) Me personally, I created my very own religion w/out knowing it. I remember going to church & feeling that the "pastor" was talking 'bout me 'cause my folks told my business... lol... I remember that the Pastor's wife pointed at me while preaching. I did not return to church for 3years. NEVER realizing that the Holy Spirit, whom Jesus sent to us after he was resurrected & can only say what the Father says, was speaking to me & my situation. God is so Loving that he sent HIS only begotten Son to redeem me unto HIM while I was yet and from time to time... daily perhaps was in sin. It was when I explained to my brother that he did not need to read the OLD Testament only the New Testament. Because I had been told the same thing... THAT HOUR... God impressed upon me for me to read His Word... Old & New. Of course... I had never done that before, didn't know how to, understand, etc... had every excuse. I started that night... it's amazing how He walked me through showing me His LOVE & HIS Son... amongst other things. Like how I had in fact created my own religion dressed up in HIS words & my works because NO ONE would ever again make me feel as though I failed God. His Mercy & Grace & the Love He showed through no other than Jesus, His only Begotten Son learned me that through the Gift freely given from our Father, Jesus Christ, He paid for my sins. Redeeming me back to Hisself because I could not do it... Nor could it be done through traditional ways of sacrifices that had become a stench to him because our hearts are most deceitful. God, Jehovah, said: Jeremiah 16:21 "Therefore I will teach them— this time I will teach them my power and might. Then they will know that my name is the LORD. Deuteronomy 30:19 19 “Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life 1 Timothy 4:7 7Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales; rather, train yourself to be godly. Micah 5:2 The Coming Messiah 2 “ But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting.” Matthew 17:5 5While he was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!" John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. |
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From what I understand there are different types of kaballah. Zohar is the one to learn. Madonna's kaballah is more New Age and distorted. I read some of the basics of kaballah and it helped me to be more spiritual and I still believe in Jesus. I never was interested in religion because it is man made. I go to a non denominational church and only give a few dollars here and there. What things do you find in the kaballah that make you feel that you can not believe in Jesus? |
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Originally Posted by N0help4u
I believe jesus to be an extra ordinary man he is a patriarch a being that reached levels of spirituality we can only dream off. |
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They say all roads lead to the airport but that just isn't so. I don't believe that believing Jesus is Lord and Savior is brainwashing. I don't even think a lot of Churches even really get what that truly means. I believe that the things we learn in our spiritual walk are not the way but only the means and avenue that takes you on the journey. Jesus paid the price for our sins and we can not see him as anything less. C.S Lewis If Jesus was not who he claimed to be he was either a charlatan, a liar, or a madman. |
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324 Messianic Prophecies
Gen. 3:15... He will bruise Satan's head... Heb. 2:14, 1 Jn. 3:18 Gen. 5:24... The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated... Mk. 6:19 Gen. 9:26,27... The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem... Lu. 3:36 Gen. 12:3... As Abraham's seed, will bless all nations... Acts. 3:25,26 Gen. 12:7... The Promise made to Abraham's Seed... Gal. 3:16 Gen. 14:18... A priest after Melchizedek... Heb. 6:20 Gen. 14:18... A King also... Heb. 7:2 Gen. 14:18... The Last Supper foreshadowed... Mt. 26:26-29 Gen. 17:19... The Seed of Isaac... Rom. 9:7 Gen. 22:8... The Lamb of God promised... Jn. 1:29 Gen. 22:18... As Isaac's seed, will bless all nations... Gal. 3:16 Gen.26:2-5.. The Seed of Isaac promised as the Redeemer.. Heb.11:18 Gen. 49:10... The time of His coming... Lu. 2:1-7; Gal. 4:4 Gen. 49:10... The Seed of Judah... Lu. 3:33 Gen. 49:10... Called Shiloh or One Sent... Jn. 17:3 Gen. 49:10... To come before Judah lost identity... Jn. 11:47-52 Gen. 49:10... To Him shall the obedience of the people be... Jn. 10:16 Ex. 3:13,14... The Great "I Am"... Jn. 4:26 Ex. 12:5... A Lamb without blemish... 1 Pet. 1:19 Ex. 12:13... The blood of the Lamb saves from wrath... Rom. 5:8 Ex. 12:21-27... Christ is our Passover... 1 Cor. 5;7 Ex. 12:46... Not a bone of the Lamb to be broken... Jn. 19:31-36 Ex. 15:2... His exaltation predicted as Yeshua... Acts 7:55,56 Ex. 15:11... His Character-Holiness... Luke 1:35; Acts 4:27 Ex. 17:6... The Spiritual Rock of Israel... 1 Cor. 10;4 Ex. 33:19... His Character-Merciful... Lu. 1:72 Lev.14:11.. The leper cleansed-Sign to priesthood.. Lu.5:12-14; Acts 6:7 Lev.16:15-17... Prefigures Christ's once-for-all death... Heb. 9:7-14 Lev.16:27... Suffering outside the Camp... Mt. 27:33; Heb. 13:11, 12 Lev.17:11... The Blood-the life of the flesh... Mt. 26;28; Mk. 10:45 Lev.17:11... It is the blood that makes atonement... 1 Jn. 3:14-18 Lev.23:36-37... The Drink-offering: "If any man thirst.".. Jn. 19:31-36 Num. 9:12... Not a bone of Him broken... John 19:31-36 Num. 21:9... The serpent on a pole-Christ lifted... Jn. 3:14-18 Num. 24:17... Time: "I shall see him, but not now."... Gal. 4:4 Deut. 18:15... "This is of a truth that prophet."... Jn. 6:14 Deut. 18:15-16... "Had ye believed Moses, ye would believe me."... Jn. 5:45-47 Deut. 18:18... Sent by the Father to speak His word... Jn. 8:28, 29 Deut. 18:19... Whoever will not hear must bear his sin... Jn. 12:15, Deut. 21:23... Cursed is he that hangs on a tree... Gal. 3:10-13 Ruth 4:4-9... Christ, our kinsman, has redeemed us... Eph. 1:3-7 1 Sam. 2:10... Shall be an anointed King to the Lord... Mt. 28:18; Jn. 12:15 2 Sam. 7:12... David's Seed... Mt. 1:1 2 Sam. 7:14a... The Son of God... Lu. 1:32 2 Sam. 7:16... David's house established forever... Lu. 3:31; Rev. 22:16 2 Ki. 2:11... The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated... Lu. 24:51 1 Chr. 17:11... David's Seed... Mt. 1:1; 9:27 1 Chr. 17:12, 13a... To reign on David's throne forever... Lu. 1:32, 33 1 Chr. 17:13a... "I will be His Father, He...my Son."... Heb. 1:5 Job 19:23-27... The Resurrection predicted... Jn. 5:24-29 Psa. 2:1-3... The enmity of kings foreordained... Acts 4:25-28 Psa. 2:2... To own the title, Anointed (Christ)... Acts 2:36 Ps. 2:6... His Character-Holiness... Jn. 8:46; Rev. 3:7 Ps. 2:6... To own the title King... Mt. 2:2 Ps. 2:7... Declared the Beloved Son... Mt. 3;17 Psa. 2:7, 8... The Crucifixion and Resurrection intimated... Acts 13:29-33 Psa. 2:12... Life comes through faith in Him... Jn. 20:31 Psa. 8:2... The mouths of babes perfect His praise... Mt. 21:16 Psa. 8:5, 6... His humiliation and exaltation... Lu. 24:50-53; 1 Cor. 15:27 Psa. 16:10... Was not to see corruption... Acts 2:31 Psa. 16:9-11... Was to arise from the dead... Jn. 20:9 Psa. 17;15... The resurrection predicted... Lu. 24:6 Psa. 22:1... Forsaken because of sins of others... 2 Cor. 5:21 Psa. 22:1... Words spoken from Calvary, "My God..." Mk. 15:34 Psa. 22:2... Darkness upon Calvary... Mt. 27:45 Psa. 22:7... They shoot out the lip and shake the head... Mt. 27:39 Psa. 22:8.. "He trusted in God, let Him deliver Him"...Mt. 27:43 Psa. 22:9......Born the Saviour......Lu. 2:7 Psa. 22:14...Died of a broken (ruptured)heart...Jn. 19:34 Psa. 22:14,15...Suffered agony on Calvary...Mk. 15:34-37 Psa. 22:15........He thirsted........Jn. 19:28 Psa. 22:16...They pierced His hands and His feet....Jn. 19:34,37;20:27 Psa. 22:17,18...Stripped Him before the stares of men...Lu. 23:34,35 Psa. 22:18.....They parted His garments.....Jn. 19:23,24 Psa. 22:20,21...He committed Himself to God...Lu.23:46 Psa. 22:20,21..Satanic power bruising the Redeemer's heel..Heb. 2:14 Psa. 22:22.....His Resurrection declared.....Jn. 20:17 Psa. 22:27...He shall be the governor of the nations...Col 1:16 Psa. 22:31......"It is finished"... Jn. 19:30 Psa. 23:1... "I am the Good Shephard"....Jn. 10:11 Psa. 24:3......His exaltation predicted......Acts 1:11; Phil. 2:9 Psa. 30:3......His resurrection predicted......Acts 2:32 Psa. 31:5..."Into thy hands I commit my spirit"... Lu. 23:46 Psa. 31:11... His acquaintances fled from Him... Mk. 14:50 Psa. 31:13... They took counsel to put Him to death... Jn. 11:53 Psa. 31:14,15... " He trusted in God, let Him deliver him"... Mt. 27:43 Psa. 34:20... Not a bone of Him broken... Jn 19:31-36 Psa. 35:11... False witnesses rose up against Him... Mt. 26:59 Psa. 35:19... He was hated without a cause... Jn. 15:25 Psa. 38:11... His friends stood afar off... Lu. 23:49 Psa. 40:2-5... The joy of His resurrection predicted... Jn. 20:20 Psa. 40:6-8... His delight-the will of the Father... Jn. 4:34 Psa. 40:9... He was to preach the Righteousness in Israel... Mt. 4:17 Psa. 40:14... Confronted by adversaries in the Garden... Jn. 18:4-6 Psa. 41:9... Betrayed by a familiar friend... Jn. 13:18 Psa. 45:2... Words of Grace come from His lips... Lu. 4:22 Psa. 45:6... To own the title, God or Elohim... Heb. 1:8 Psa. 45:7... A special anointing by the Holy Spirit... Mt.3:16; Heb.1:9 Psa. 45:7,8... Called the Christ (Messiah or Anointed)... Lu. 2:11 Psa. 55:12-14... Betrayed by a friend, not an enemy... Jn. 13:18 Psa. 55:15... Unrepentant death of the Betrayer... Mt. 27:3-5; Acts 1:16-19 Psa. 68:18... To give gifts to men... Eph. 4:7-16 Psa. 68:18... Ascended into Heaven... Lu. 24:51 Psa. 69:4... Hated without a cause... Jn. 15:25 Psa. 69:8... A stranger to own brethren... Lu. 8;20,21 Psa. 69:9... Zealous for the Lord's House... Jn. 2:17 Psa. 69:14-20... Messiah's anguish of soul before crucifixion... Mt. 26:36-45 Psa. 69:20... "My soul is exceeding sorrowful."... Mt. 26:38 Psa. 69:21... Given vinegar in thirst... Mt. 27:34 Psa. 69:26... The Saviour given and smitten by God... Jn. 17:4; 18:11 Psa. 72:10,11... Great persons were to visit Him... Mt. 2:1-11 Psa. 72:16... The corn of wheat to fall into the Ground... Jn. 12:24 Psa. 72:17... His name, Yinon, will produce offspring... Jn. 1:12,13 Psa. 72:17... All nations shall be blessed by Him... Acts 2:11,12,41 Psa. 78:1.2... He would teach in parables... Mt. 13:34-35 Psa. 78:2b... To speak the Wisdom of God with authority... Mt. 7:29 Psa. 88:8... They stood afar off and watched... Lu. 23:49 Psa. 89:27... Emmanuel to be higher than earthly kings... Lu. 1:32,33 Psa. 89:35-37... David's Seed, throne, kingdom endure forever... Lu. 1:32,33 Psa. 89:36-37... His character-Faithfulness... Rev. 1:5 Psa. 90:2... He is from everlasting (Micah 5:2)... Jn. 1:1 Psa. 91:11,12... Identified as Messianic; used to tempt Christ... Lu. 4;10,11 Psa. 97:9... His exaltation predicted... Acts 1:11;Eph. 1:20 Psa. 100:5... His character-Goodness... Mt. 19:16,17 Psa. 102:1-11... The Suffering and Reproach of Calvary... Jn. 21:16-30 Psa. 102:25-27... Messiah is the Preexistent Son... Heb. 1:10-12 Psa. 109:25... Ridiculed... Mt. 27:39 Psa. 110:1... Son of David... Mt. 22:43 Psa. 110:1... To ascend to the right-hand of the Father... Mk.16:19 Psa. 110:1... David's son called Lord... Mt. 22:44,45 Psa. 110:4... A priest after Melchizedek's order... Heb. 6:20 Psa. 112:4... His character-Compassionate, Gracious, et al... Mt. 9;36 Psa. 118:17,18... Messiah's Resurrection assured... Lu. 24:5-7;1 Cor. 15:20 Psa. 118:22,23... The rejected stone is Head of the corner... Mt. 21:42,43 Psa. 118:26a... The Blessed One presented to Israel... Mt. 21:9 Psa. 118:26b... To come while Temple standing... Mt. 21;12-15 Psa. 132:11... The Seed of David(the fruit of His Body)... Lu. 1:32 Psa. 138:1-6... The supremacy of David's Seed amazes kings... Mt. 2:2-6 Psa. 147:3,6... The earthly ministry of Christ described... Lu. 4:18 Psa. 1:23... He will send the Spirit of God... Jn. 16;7 Song. 5;16... The altogether lovely One... Jn. 1:17 |
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Isa. 6:1... When Isaiah saw His glory... Jn. 12:40-41
Isa. 6:9-10... Parables fall on deaf ears... Mt. 13:13-15 Isa. 6:9-12... Blinded to Christ and deaf to His words... Acts. 28:23-29 Isa. 7:14... To be born of a virgin... Lu. 1:35 Isa. 7:14... To be Emmanuel-God with us... Mt. 1:18-23 Isa. 8:8... Called Emmanuel... Mt. 28:20 Isa. 8:14... A stone of stumbling, a Rock of offense... 1 Pet. 2:8 Isa. 9:1,2... His ministry to begin in Galilee... Mt. 4:12-17 Isa. 9:6... A child born-Humanity... Lu. 1:31 Isa. 9:6... A Son given-Deity... Lu. 1:32; Jn. 1;14; 1 Tim. 3:16 Isa. 9:6... Declared to be the Son of God with power... Rom. 1:3,4 Isa. 9:6... The Wonderful One, Peleh... Lu. 4:22 Isa. 9:6... The Counsellor, Yaatz... Mt. 13:54 Isa. 9:6... The Mighty God, El Gibor... Mt. 11:20 Isa. 9:6... The Everlasting Father, Avi Adth... Jn. 8:58 Isa. 9:6... The Prince of Peace, Sar Shalom... Jn . 16:33 Isa. 9:7... To establish an everlasting kingdom... Lu. 1:32-33 Isa. 9:7... His Character-Just... Jn. 5:30 Isa. 9:7... No end to his Government, Throne, and Peace... Lu. 1:32-33 Isa. 11:1... Called a Nazarene-the Branch, Netzer... Mt. 2:23 Isa. 11:1... A rod out of Jesse-Son of Jesse... Lu. 3:23,32 Isa. 11:2... The anointed One by the Spirit... Mt. 3;16,17 Isa. 11:2... His Character-Wisdom, Understanding, et al... Jn. 4:4-26 Isa. 11:4... His Character-Truth... Jn. 14:6 Isa. 11:10... The Gentiles seek Him... Jn. 12:18-21 Isa. 12:2... Called Jesus-Yeshua... Mt. 1:21 Isa. 25:8... The Resurrection predicted... I Cor. 15:54 Isa. 26:19... His power of Resurrection predicted... Jn. 11:43,44 Isa. 28:16... The Messiah is the precious corner stone... Acts 4:11,12 Isa. 29:13... He indicated hypocritical obedience to His Word... Mt. 15:7-9 Isa. 29:14... The wise are confounded by the Word... I Cor. 1:18-31 Isa. 32:2... A Refuge-A man shall be a hiding place... Mt. 23:37 Isa. 35:4... He will come and save you... Mt. 1:21 Isa. 35:5... To have a ministry of miracles... Mt. 11:4-6 Isa. 40:3,4... Preceded by forerunner... Jn. 1:23 Isa. 40:9... "Behold your God."... Jn. 1:36;19:14 Isa. 40:11... A shepherd-compassionatelife-giver... Jn. 10:10-18 Isa. 42:1-4... The Servant-as a faithful, patient redeemer... Mt.12:18-21 Isa. 42:2... Meek and lowly... Mt. 11:28-30 Isa. 42:3... He brings hope for the hopeless... Jn. 4 Isa. 42:4... The nations shall wait on His teachings... Jn. 12:20-26 Isa. 42:6... The Light (salvation) of the Gentiles... Lu. 2:32 Isa. 42:1,6... His is a Worldwide compassion... Mt. 28:19,20 Isa. 42:7... Blind eyes opened... Jn. 9:25-38 Isa. 43:11... He is the only Saviour... Acts. 4:12 Isa. 44:3... He will send the Spirit of God... Jn. 16:7,13 Isa. 45:23... He will be the Judge... Jn. 5:22;Rom. 14:11 Isa. 48:12... The First and the Last... Jn. 1:30;Rev. 1:8,17 Isa. 48:17... He came as a Teacher... Jn. 3:2 Isa. 49:1... Called from the womb-His humanity... Mt. 1:18 Isa. 49:5... A Servant from the womb... Lu. 1:31;Phil. 2:7 Isa. 49:6... He is Salvation for Israel... Lu. 2:29-32 Isa. 49:6... He is the Light of the Gentiles... Acts 13:47 Isa. 49:6... He is Salvation unto the ends of the earth... Acts 15:7-18 Isa. 49:7... He is despised of the Nation... Jn. 8:48-49 Isa. 50:3... Heaven is clothed in black at His humiliation... Lu. 23:44,45 Isa. 50:4... He is a learned counsellor for the weary... Mt. 11:28,29 Isa. 50:5... The Servant bound willingly to obedience... Mt. 26:39 Isa. 50:6a... "I gave my back to the smiters."... Mt. 27:26 Isa. 50:6b... He was smitten on the cheeks... Mt. 26:67 Isa. 50:6c... He was spat upon... Mt. 27:30 Isa. 52:7... To publish good tidings of peace... Lu. 4:14,15 Isa. 52:13... The Servant exalted... Acts 1:8-11; Eph. 1:19-22 Isa. 52:13... Behold, My Servant... Mt. 17:5; Phil. 2:5-8 Isa. 52:14... The Servant shockingly abused... Lu. 18:31-34; Mt. 26:67,68 Isa. 52:15... Nations startled by message of the Servant... Rom. 15:18-21 Isa. 52:15... His blood shed to make atonement for all... Rev. 1:5 Isa. 53:1... His people would not believe Him... Jn. 12:37-38 Isa. 53:2a... He would grow up in a poor family... Lu. 2:7 Isa. 53:2b... Appearance of an ordinary man... Phil. 2:7-8 Isa. 53:3a... Despised... Lu. 4:28-29 Isa. 53:3b... Rejected... Mt. 27:21-23 Isa. 53:3c... Great sorrow and grief... Lu. 19:41-42 Isa. 53:3d... Men hide from being associated with Him... Mk. 14:50-52 Isa. 53:4a... He would have a healing ministry... Lu. 6:17-19 Isa. 53:4b... He would bear the sins of the world... 1 Pet. 2:24 Isa. 53:4c... Thought to be cursed by God... Mt. 27:41-43 Isa. 53:5a... Bears penalty for mankind's transgressions... Lu. 23:33 Isa. 53:5b... His sacrifice would provide peace between man and God... Col. 1:20 Isa. 53:5c... His back would be whipped... Mt. 27:26 Isa. 53:6a... He would be the sin-bearer for all mankind... Gal. 1:4 Isa. 53:6b... God's will that He bear sin for all mankind... 1 Jn. 4:10 Isa. 53:7a... Oppressed and afflicted... Mt. 27:27-31 Isa. 53:7b... Silent before his accusers... Mt. 27:12-14 Isa. 53:7c... Sacrificial lamb... Jn. 1:29 Isa. 53:8a... Confined and persecuted... Mt. 26:47-27:31 Isa. 53:8b... He would be judged... Jn. 18:13-22 Isa. 53:8c... Killed... Mt. 27:35 Isa. 53:8d... Dies for the sins of the world... 1 Jn. 2:2 Isa. 53:9a... Buried in a rich man's grave... Mt. 27:57 Isa. 53:9b... Innocent and had done no violence... Mk. 15:3 Isa. 53:9c... No deceit in his mouth... Jn. 18:38 Isa. 53:10a... God's will that He die for mankind... Jn. 18:11 Isa. 53:10b... An offering for sin... Mt. 20:28 Isa. 53:10c... Resurrected and live forever... Mk. 16:16 Isa. 53:10d... He would prosper... Jn. 17:1-5 Isa. 53:11a... God fully satisfied with His suffering... Jn. 12:27 Isa. 53:11b... God's servant... Rom. 5:18-19 Isa. 53:11c... He would justify man before God... Rom. 5:8-9 Isa. 53:11d... The sin-bearer for all mankind... Heb. 9:28 Isa. 53:12a... Exalted by God because of his sacrifice... Mt. 28:18 Isa. 53:12b... He would give up his life to save mankind... Lu. 23:46 Isa. 53:12c... Grouped with criminals... Lu. 23:32 Isa. 53:12d... Sin-bearer for all mankind... 2 Cor. 5:21 Isa. 53:12e... Intercede to God in behalf of mankind... Lu. 23:34 Isa. 55:3... Resurrected by God... Acts 13:34 Isa. 55:4... A witness... Jn. 18:37 Isa. 59:15-16a... He would come to provide salvation... Jn. 6:40 Isa. 59:15-16b... Intercessor between man and God... Mt. 10:32 Isa. 59:20... He would come to Zion as their Redeemer... Lu. 2:38 Isa. 61:1-2a... The Spirit of God upon him... Mt. 3:16-17 Isa. 61:1-2b... The Messiah would preach the good news... Lu. 4:17-21 Isa. 61:1-2c... Provide freedom from the bondage of sin and death... Jn. 8:31-32 Isa. 61:1-2... Proclaim a period of grace... Jn. 5:24 Jer.23:5-6a... Descendant of David... Lu. 3:23-31 Jer. 23:5-6b... The Messiah would be God... Jn. 13:13 Jer. 23:5-6c... The Messiah would be both God and Man... 1 Tim. 3:16 Jer. 31:22... Born of a virgin... Mt. 1:18-20 Jer. 31:31... The Messiah would be the new covenant... Mt. 26:28 Jer. 33:14-15... Descendant of David... Lu. 3:23-31 Eze.17:22-24... Descendant of David... Lk. 3:23-31 Eze.34:23-24... Descendant of David... Mt. 1:1 Dan. 7:13-14a... He would ascend into heaven... Acts 1:9-11 Dan. 7:13-14b... Highly exalted... Eph. 1:20-22 Dan. 7:13-14c... His dominion would be everlasting... Lu. 1:31-33 Dan. 9:24a... To make an end to sins... Gal. 1:3-5 Dan. 9:24b... He would be holy... Lu. 1:35 Dan. 9:25... Announced to his people 483 years, to the exact day, after the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem... Jn. 12:12-13 Dan. 9:26a... Killed... Mt. 27:35 Dan. 9:26b... Die for the sins of the world... Heb. 2:9 Dan. 9:26c... Killed before the destruction of the temple... Mt. 27:50-51 Dan. 10:5-6... Messiah in a glorified state... Rev. 1:13-16 Hos. 13:14... He would defeat death... 1 Cor. 15:55-57 Joel 2:32... Offer salvation to all mankind... Rom. 10:12-13 Mic. 5:2a... Born in Bethlehem... Mt. 2:1-2 Mic. 5:2b... God's servant... Jn. 15:10 Mic. 5:2c... From everlasting... Jn. 8:58 Hag. 2:6-9... He would visit the second Temple... Lu. 2:27-32 Hag. 2:23... Descendant of Zerubbabel... Lu. 3:23-27 Zech. 3:8... God's servant... Jn. 17:4 Zech. 6:12-13... Priest and King... Heb. 8:1 Zech. 9:9a... Greeted with rejoicing in Jerusalem... Mt. 21:8-10 Zech. 9:9b... Beheld as King... Jn. 12:12-13 Zech. 9:9c... The Messiah would be just... Jn. 5:30 Zech. 9:9d... The Messiah would bring salvation... Luke 19:10 Zech. 9:9e... The Messiah would be humble... Mt. 11:29 Zech. 9:9f... Presented to Jerusalem riding on a donkey... Mt. 21:6-9 Zech. 10:4... The cornerstone... Eph. 2:20 Zech. 11:4-6a... At His coming, Israel to have unfit leaders... Mt. 23:1-4 Zech. 11:4-6b... Rejection causes God to remove His protection.. Lu. 19:41-44 Zech. 11:4-6c... Rejected in favor of another king... Jn. 19:13-15 Zech. 11:7... Ministry to "poor," the believing remnant... Mt. 9:35-36 Zech. 11:8a... Unbelief forces Messiah to reject them... Mt. 23:33 Zech. 11:8b... Despised... Mt. 27:20 Zech. 11:9... Stops ministering to the those who rejected Him... Mt. 13:10-11 Zech. 11:10-11a... Rejection causes God to remove protection... Lu. 19:41-44 Zech. 11:10-11b... The Messiah would be God... Jn. 14:7 Zech. 11:12-13a... Betrayed for thirty pieces of silver... Mt. 26:14-15 Zech. 11:12-13b... Rejected... Mt. 26:14-15 Zech. 11:12-13c... Thirty pieces of silver thrown into the house of the Lord... Mt. 27:3-5 Zech. 11:12-13d... The Messiah would be God... Jn. 12:45 Zech. 12:10a... The Messiah's body would be pierced... Jn. 19:34-37 Zech. 12:10b... The Messiah would be both God and man... Jn. 10:30 Zech. 12:10c... The Messiah would be rejected... Jn. 1:11 Zech. 13:7a... God's will He die for mankind... Jn. 18:11 Zech. 13:7b... A violent death... Mt. 27:35 Zech. 13:7c... Both God and man.. Jn. 14:9 Zech. 13:7d... Israel scattered as a result of rejecting Him... Mt. 26:31-56 Mal. 3:1a... Messenger to prepare the way for Messiah... Mt. 11:10 Mal. 3:1b... Sudden appearance at the temple... Mk. 11:15-16 Mal. 3:1c... Messenger of the new covenant... Lu. 4:43 Mal. 4:5... Forerunner in the spirit of Elijah... Mt. 3:1-2 Mal. 4:6... Forerunner would turn many to righteousness... Lu. 1:16-17 Fulfilled Prophecy Tenakh/Hebrew Scripture New Testament His pre-existence Micah 5:2 John 1:1, 14 Born of the seed of a woman Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:18 Of the seed of Abraham Genesis 12:3 Matthew 1:1-16 All nations blessed by Abraham's seed Genesis 12:3 Matthew 8:5, 10 God would provide Himself a Lamb as an offering Genesis 22:8 John 1:29 From the tribe of Judah Genesis 49:10 Matthew 1:1-3 Heir to the throne of David Isaiah 9:6-7 Matthew 1:1 Called "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" Isaiah 9:6 Matthew 1:23 Born in Bethlehem Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1 Born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:18 His name called Immanuel, "God with us" Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:23 Declared to be the Son of God Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:17 His messenger before Him in spirit of Elijah Malachi 4:5-6 Luke 1:17 Preceded by a messenger to prepare His way Malachi 3:1 Matthew 11:7-11 Messenger crying "Prepare ye the way of the Lord" Isaiah 40:3 Matthew 3:3 Would be a Prophet of the children of Israel Deuteronomy 18:15 Matthew 2:15 Called out of Egypt Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:15 Slaughter of the children Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew2:18 Would be a Nazarene Judges 13:5; Amos 2:11; Lam. 4:7 Matthew 2:23 Brought light to Zabulon and Nephthalm, Galilee of the Gentiles Isaiah 9:1-2 Matthew 4:15 Presented with gifts Psalm 72:10 Matthew 2:1, 11 Rejected by His own Isaiah 53:3 Matthew 21:42; Mark 8:31, 12:10; Luke 9:22, 17:25 He is the stone which the builders rejected which became the headstone Psalm 118:22-23; Isaiah 28:16 Matthew 21:42; I Peter 2:7 A stone of stumbling to Israel Isaiah 8:14-15 I Peter 2:8 He entered Jerusalem as a king riding on an Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:5 Betrayed by a friend Psalms 41:9 John 13:21 Sold for 30 pieces of silver Zechariah 11:12 Matthew 26:15; Luke 22:5 The 30 pieces of silver given for the potter's field Zechariah 11:12 Matthew 27:9-10 The 30 pieces of silver thrown in the temple Zechariah 11:13 Matthew 27:5 Forsaken by His disciples Zechariah 13:7 Matthew 26:56 Accused by false witnesses Psalm 35:11 Matthew 26:60 Silent to accusations Isaiah 53:7 Matthew 27:14 Heal blind/deaf/lame/dumb Isaiah 35:5-6; Isaiah 29:18 Matthew 11:5 Preached to the poor/brokenhearted/captives Isaiah 61:1 Matthew 11:5 Came to bring a sword, not peace Micah 7:6 Matthew 10:34-35 He bore our sickness Isaiah 53:4 Matthew 8:16-17 Spat upon, smitten and scourged Isaiah 50:6, 53:5 Matthew 27:26, 30 Smitten on the cheek Micah 5:1 Matthew 27:30 Hated without a cause Psalm 35:19 Matthew 27:23 The sacrificial lamb Isaiah 53:5 John 1:29 Given for a covenant Isaiah 42:6; Jeremiah 31:31-34 Romans 11:27/Galatians 3:17, 4:24/Hebrews 8:6, 8, 10; 10:16, 29; 12:24; 13:20 Would not strive or cry Isaiah 42:2-3 Mark 7:36 People would hear not and see not Isaiah 6:9-10 Matthew 13:14-15 People trust in traditions of men Isaiah 29:13 Matthew 15:9 People give God lip service Isaiah 29:13 Matthew 15:8 God delights in Him Isaiah 42:1 Matthew 3:17, 17:5 Wounded for our sins Isaiah 53:5 John 6:51 He bore the sins of many Isaiah 53:10-12 Mark 10:45 Messiah not killed for Himself Daniel 9:26 Matthew 20:28 Gentiles flock to Him Isaiah 55:5, 60:3, 65:1; Malachi 1:11; II Samuel 22:44-45; Psalm 2:7-8 Matthew 8:10 Crucified with criminals Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:35 His body was pierced Zechariah 12:10; Ps. 22:16 John 20:25, 27 Thirsty during execution Psalm 22:16 John 19:28 Given vinegar and gall for thirst Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34 Soldiers gambled for his garment Psalm 22:18 Matthew 27:35 People mocked, "He trusted in God, let Him deliver him!" Psalm 22:7-8 Matthew 27:43 People sat there looking at Him Psalm 22:17 Matthew 27:36 Cried, "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?" Psalm 22:1 Matthew 27:46 Darkness over the land Amos 8:9 Matthew 27:45 No bones broken Psalm 34:20, Numbers 9:12 John 19:33-36 Side pierced Zechariah 12:10 John 19:34 Buried with the rich Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57, 60 Resurrected from the dead Psalm 16:10-11; 49:15 Mark 16:6 Priest after the order of Melchizedek Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6; 6:20; 7:15-17 Ascended to right hand of God Psalm 68:18 Luke 24:51 LORD said unto Him, "Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool Psalm 110:1 Matt 22:44; Mark 12:36;, 16:19; Luke 20:42-43; Acts 2:34-35; Hebrews 1:13 His coming glory Malachi 3:2-3 Luke 3:17 Old Testament Messianic Prophecies Fulfilled Concerning Jesus Christ |
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No help that's a lot of references but my views about jesus are certainly different and I don't see them changing. I have finally found something that completes me, I just see jesus as the muslims see mohammed as a prophet of God that came to show us how we should live. Jesus being the son of god and the saviour of man kind does not work for me anymore. |
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Did you check the C.S. Lewis link? I believe believing in Jesus completes what you believe. I really got a lot out of the kaballah and many other things I have studied but it is like being married but seeing your husband as only some guy that lives in the same house as you. Your relationship is not complete if you do not see your husband as your husband. |
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Originally Posted by N0help4u
So yes the marriage can be more than fulfilling when looking at it through theses eyes:). This type of view also allows one to feel meaningful and non superficially happiness. If your soul is happy it is the only form of true and pure happiness.:o |
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Originally Posted by lighterrr
I must say that I am very envious as I believe you have found the secret to living it total peace and acceptance. I've tried meditation but so far, I'm no good at it. I strive to be like you, because I think you have it right. I still find myself struggling to be "enlightened". Like you though, I don't get it from formal religion. I say "good for you!":) |
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Quote NoHelp4U: Jesus paid the price for our sins and we can not see him as anything less. Jesus suffered for us... but isn't mankind still suffering? How come God will either send you to heaven or to hell on judgementday... if Jesus already paid the price for our sins? Why isn't there a choice? What kind of God would he be if he would judge us and not forgive us to let us burn in hell as far as being his children? Maybe we cannot see Jesus as anything less.. but for sure as equal cause he was human and we are all the same... as one... as equal! To Lighterr: I agree with your new insights and I am very happy for you seeing things this way. Cozyk already said it: you know exactly what to say and how to deal with the people and friends from church.. just tell them your truth cause that will be your protection. Peace and happiness on your path! |
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Originally Posted by black111madonna
Thank you so much guys:D cozyk you know its hard to start meditating but just take baby steps first. i.e lying down in a quiet room try to block out all surronding sounds, and take long deep breaths as your mind begins to quiet meditation becomes easier;) just a tip |
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Hey lighterrr: I'm really new to this askbar thing but I'm really enjoying the commentary I read here. All the responses you seem to be receiving from people seem to be of a christ bias nature,and I commend and challenge all of them. You see I was raised in a strict fundamentalist background and became extremely wore out on church when I was young. As I approached my teen years,I was so worn out by the strict and hypocritical manner I was taught to believe,especially when I asked a question about scripture at the age of 13 and was told that '"it's just the way it is!". So I studied other things Kabbalah,wicca,zoaster,etc. I spent 12 years of my life thinking I had power from all this knowledge I became a egomaniac. So to answer your true question about how to politely defuse christian hysteria by your friends and others, simply tell them that you have prayerfully consider this path, and if they are alarmed that they should pray that the spirit of God show you only his true way of living. This will always present a win win situation,for you because they will most likely drop the evangelistic fervor,and for them because the will have a mission from God on your behalf and that generally pacifies the zeal in a christian. I do feel it only fair to warn you however that this practice on the tree of life is linked to the latter end of Solomons reign,and I'm quite sure you already Know what happened to him and why. If not I urge you to research his biblical history. On yet another note, you mentioned that the spiritual high you receive was a temporary euphoria. Right well you are,my concern is that if you are experiencing this emotional awakening on a continual basis you may be effected by something altogether more powerful than you realize. Please understand I am not trying to condemn you,because I relate to this same experience in my own spiritual journey,and it became even more devastating than any church disorder I experienced. There is an ancient Hebrew proverb which states that,"he who believes in his own heart is a fool." the principle of this saying is simply this,our emotions lie to us. Ask yourself how many times have you been afraid for no real reason or have you felt loved by someone who stabbed you in the back? Christ message is simple and complete,not religious and sensational. I hope this blesses you all in some way,for I lost my life to learn it.grace and peace. |
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I do feel it only fair to warn you however that this practice on the tree of life is linked to the latter end of Solomons reign,and I'm quite sure you already Know what happened to him and why. If not I urge you to research his biblical history. On yet another note, you mentioned that the spiritual high you receive was a temporary euphoria. Right well you are,my concern is that if you are experiencing this emotional awakening on a continual basis you may be effected by something altogether more powerful than you realize. Please understand I am not trying to condemn you,because I relate to this same experience in my own spiritual journey,and it became even more devastating than any church disorder I experienced.
I don't understand what you are getting at here? Could you explain further? "Something all together more powerful than you realize" What does that mean?
There is an ancient Hebrew proverb which states that,"he who believes in his own heart is a fool." the principle of this saying is simply this,our emotions lie to us. Ask yourself how many times have you been afraid for no real reason or have you felt loved by someone who stabbed you in the back? Christ message is simple and complete,not religious and sensational.
I hope this blesses you all in some way,for I lost my life to learn it.grace and peace.
What do you mean that you lost your life. Are you still lost? I'm confused. |
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