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tallay83 · Mar 24, 2009, 05:44 PM

Hello,

Installing a new bathroom on the second floor of my house. Can someone please read this description and see if it sounds OK? Thanks.

Description of flow:
The toilet will have a 6ft. Horizontal run of 3" pipe from the flange to a 90` elbow (This elbow has a 2" heel out for 3 fixtures and vent above it). Then the 3" pipe drops for 8 ft. into a 90` long sweep elbow. Out of the elbow it will run 10ft. horizontal into the the main 4" stack.

The three fixtures will drain into the Heel elbow (above it). I plan to wet vent through the 2" line which drains a tub and shower. This will make its way trough the roof.

Milo Dolezal · Mar 24, 2009, 09:21 PM

Tallay83: Your plan sounds fine with me. I just don't understand the 3"x 2" fitting that will accept all fixtures at the same level + will vent the toilet...

I drew sketch showing how I would propose to install it. You are not stating where you are located. I work under UPC which is more strict than rest of the country. I am sure other experts will comment on it later and that they will add their opinion as well.

The bottom long sweep 90 should be "comby" fitting ( or 3" Y + 45 degree turn) and should have Clean out on outside outlet. If your project is not inspected ( and sometimes even when it is inspected ), you can get away with 6' of 3" toilet run w/o vent. (Code calls for 5' max... ).

Here is the sketch...

massplumber2008 · Mar 25, 2009, 04:03 AM

Hi Tally:

You said, "The three fixtures will drain into the Heel elbow (above it)". Here, you need to check with a local plumbing inspector to see if this HEEL INLET FITTING is a LEGAL FITTING. They aren't legal in my area... for years now! Let us know... OK?

MARK

tallay83 · Mar 25, 2009, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Milo Dolezal

Tallay83: Your plan sounds fine with me. I just don't understand the 3"x 2" fitting that will accept all fixtures at the same level + will vent the toilet....

I drew sketch showing how I would propose to install it. You are not stating where you are located. I work under UPC which is more strict than rest of the country. I am sure other experts will comment on it later and that they will add their opinion as well.

The bottom long sweep 90 should be "comby" fitting ( or 3" Y + 45 degree turn) and should have Clean out on outside outlet. If your project is not inspected ( and sometimes even when it is inspected ), you can get away with 6' of 3" toilet run w/o vent. (Code calls for 5' max .....).

Here is the sketch....

Thanks Milo, Your sketch helped me a lot. I didn't think of draining the toilet above the double WYE as you sketched. I was using a 3" elbow with a 2" heel and using the heel portion for draining the fixture. How did you get the shetch in their? I tried Word and Paint and the files where too large.

tallay83 · Mar 25, 2009, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by tallay83

Thanks Milo, Your sketch helped me alot. I didn't think of draining the toliet above the double WYE as you sketched. I was using a 3" elbow with a 2" heel and using the heel portion for draining the fixture. How did you get the shetch in their? I tried Word and Paint and the files where too large.

I am in New Jersey.

tallay83 · Mar 25, 2009, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by massplumber2008

Hi Tally:

You said, "The three fixtures will drain into the Heel elbow (above it)". Here, you need to check with a local plumbing inspector to see if this HEEL INLET FITTING is a LEGAL FITTING. They aren't legal in my area...for years now!! Let us know...OK?

MARK

Thank you. I will check with the town today. I am in north NJ.

Milo Dolezal · Mar 25, 2009, 07:45 AM

OK, now it is clear to me. If you plan on having it inspected, you should do as Mark said. Call you Inspector and ask him about your proposed installation. Just like in Mark's area, I could not utilize this fitting in my region of operation, either.

This particular sketch was drawn in Word and converted to JPG in Photoshop. Yes, BMP and TIFF files are too big to post. If you run Windows, you can use the simpliest version of MGI program which is great for doing basic sketches.