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    Mar 4, 2009, 09:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    As the old anti-drug commercials use to say. We learned it from watching you.
    But we haven't managed to perfect the hypocrisy of it as well as the Dems. :D
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    Mar 4, 2009, 09:35 AM

    I understand your party started it we just perfected it. Don't tell me you guys are a bunch of sore losers. But Burris has nothing to do with Rush being your leader.
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    Mar 4, 2009, 09:45 AM

    Rush consistently says he is a conservative, not a Republican.
    But phooh! Rush would probably have a better chance of getting elected to Pres than McCain did. Or at least as good.
    The Dems always try to demonize anyone that they think may be or become a threat to them. Look at the vicious and continuing attacks on Palin, and now they are starting on Jindal.
    Just pre emptive politics, I guess.
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    Mar 4, 2009, 01:58 PM
    But President Hopenchange promised to "change the tone" of politics, that this was the principal problem of politics today.

    But challenging as they are, it's not the magnitude of our problems that concerns me the most - it's the smallness of our politics. America's faced big problems before, but today our leaders in Washington seem incapable of working together in a practical, commonsense way. Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions. And that's what we have to change first. We have to change our politics, and come together around our common interests and concerns as Americans.
    Instead, Obama is on a course to do all he can to crush the GOP and annihilate conservatism, and as we all know now with the help of his friends in the media through their daily phone strategy sessions.
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    Mar 4, 2009, 02:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    But President Hopenchange promised to "change the tone" of politics, that this was the principal problem of politics today.



    Instead, Obama is on a course to do all he can to crush the GOP and annihilate conservatism, and as we all know now with the help of his friends in the media through their daily phone strategy sessions.
    It becomes more evident, day by day, that President Hopenchange is not in charge of his White House, and that he has little control over those who are. His job is to look pretty and say nice things; however, the rubber will meet the road.
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    Mar 4, 2009, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I understand your party started it we just perfected it. Don't tell me you guys are a bunch of sore losers. But Burris has nothing to do with Rush being your leader.
    It's not about being sore losers, we just remember Obama's promises (just words) and we do care about him trying to rebuild the country in his image, we liked her the way she was intended to be. But read the thread, Spit. Burris was just the tip of the iceberg of how the Dems are perfecting the hypocrisy.
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    Mar 4, 2009, 03:11 PM

    How presidential of Obama to go after a private citizen!? :eek: And some people have their panties in a wad because Bush might have been listening on their conversations :confused::rolleyes:


    Maybe Obama and the Dems are getting back for the whole "magic negro" schtick.













    G&P
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    Mar 4, 2009, 03:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by inthebox View Post
    How presidential of Obama to go after a private citizen !?! :eek: And some people have their panties in a wad because Bush might have been listening on their conversations :confused::rolleyes:


    Maybe Obama and the Dems are getting back for the whole "magic negro" schtick.
    Nope, it's a carefully planned and orchestrated effort by the White House and their media minions (as George mentioned). That whole "magic negro" thing was the creation of a liberal. It was too good for Rush not to offer up a parody, and the left was apparently clueless as to the parody they made of themselves during the campaign.
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    #29

    Mar 10, 2009, 07:53 AM
    The Dems announced today the 5 finalists for their silly message to Rush billboard. But before I get to that let’s revisit what he actually said:

    I got a request here from a major American print publication. “Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal.” Now, we’re caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your “hope.” My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, “Well, I hope he succeeds. We’ve got to give him a chance.” Why? They didn’t give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I’m not talking about search-and-destroy, but I’ve been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don’t want them to succeed.

    If I wanted Obama to succeed, I’d be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he’s talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don’t want this to work. So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.” (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here’s the point. Everybody thinks it’s outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, “Oh, you can’t do that.” Why not? Why is it any different, what’s new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what’s gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don’t care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: “Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails.” Somebody’s gotta say it.

    Were the liberals out there hoping Bush succeeded or were they out there trying to destroy him before he was even inaugurated? Why do we have to play the game by their rules? Why do we have to accept the premise here that because of the historical nature of his presidency, that we want him to succeed? This is affirmative action, if we do that. We want to promote failure, we want to promote incompetence, we want to stand by and not object to what he's doing simply because of the color of his skin? Sorry. I got past the historical nature of this months ago. He is the president of the United States, he's my president, he's a human being, and his ideas and policies are what count for me, not his skin color, not his past, not whatever ties he doesn't have to being down with the struggle, all of that's irrelevant to me. We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that? So I can answer it, four words, "I hope he fails." And that would be the most outrageous thing anybody in this climate could say. Shows you just how far gone we are. Well, I know, I know. I am the last man standing.

    Now, the finalists for the billboard:

    • "Americans didn't vote for a Rush to failure"
    • "Hope and change cannot be Rush'd"
    • "Failure is not an option for America's future"
    • "We can fix America, just don't Rush it"
    • "Rush: Say yes to America"


    Now tell me – seriously – who is disconnected from reality here? “Americans didn’t vote for a Rush to failure,” “Hope and change cannot be Rush’d” and "We can fix America, just don't Rush it." What are we getting now but a rush to failure? Obama let Congress write the stimulus package they didn’t even read and rushed it into law with all its pork and massive new government programs – exactly what Rush was talking about.

    "Failure is not an option for America's future" and "Rush: Say yes to America." And Rush said what about the country and its future? “We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism?”

    Clueless, classless, childish idiots are running the show now, with “Obama’s brainspulling the strings.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 08:01 AM

    Same old book, new chapter: "Democrats' new villain: Eric Cantor... Forget Rush Limbaugh....For all the focus on the king of conservative talk, Democrats may have found a more important villain in House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, a telegenic young Republican trying to bring life to his party on Capitol Hill." By PATRICK O'CONNOR
    Democrats' new villain: Eric Cantor - Patrick O'Connor - POLITICO.com
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    #31

    Mar 10, 2009, 08:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That whole "magic negro" thing was the creation of a liberal.
    I read that article and do not see where it mentions a liberal having starting using the term or having created the term. It simply explains the term and its past usage.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 08:13 AM

    Yawn . This whole issue is boring . I turned off Matthews yesterday because he seems obsessed with Rush .He likes to bring in "conservatives" like David Frum to encourage a Republican circular firing squad.

    Minority parties who get thumped in elections always have a leadership void. Who was the Dem leader in 2004 ? Yeah Dean the screem... or was it Michael Moore or Cindy Sheehad... maybe the Dixie Chicks ?

    They have picked a demon to put on their dart boards ,and all they are really doing is increasing Rush's listenership (20 million at last count) . Rush of course is playing along with it . Why wouldn't he ?

    This demonizing of Rush is right out of the Alinsky playbook... pure Chicago politics . So natually Rhambo and Axelrod with the help from their cronies in the media [Stephanopoulos and Carville ]stoked the fire. In the end it's a whole lot of much ado about nothing . But it does act to deflect attention from the President's dismal performace to date.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 09:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I read that article and do not see where it mentions a liberal having starting using the term or having created the term. it simply explains the term and its past usage.
    David Ehrenstein IS the liberal and he IS the one who used the term in reference to Obama.

    Obama the 'Magic Negro'

    "But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."

    "Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes."

    Rush merely made a parody of Ehrenstein who is in fact the creator of Obama as the "Magic Negro." I stand by my comment.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 09:05 AM

    Rush will continue to define all the things more and more American's hate about the Republican party. He will continue to marginalize the Republican party.

    Of course he will have his supporters, those already firmly in his camp; but he's preaching to the choir, he's not going to bring the new young American's of diverse backgrounds into the fold.

    For the Republican's to have a chance, they need a new voice. One who stays true to conservative principles but can package it in a manner that is more moderate.
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    #35

    Mar 10, 2009, 09:29 AM
    What's funny Tex, is his audience is growing even more now, as has been mentioned already, and those who think he's too radical and divisive have probably never listened. He's a cupcake compared to Olbermann, Maher and Garafalo... and a heck of a lot funnier.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 09:50 AM

    According to media matters (whoever they are) Rush hasn't seen his own numbers and doesn't know if his ratings doubled.

    Media Matters - Why don't we just pretend Rush Limbaugh has 50 million listeners?
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    Mar 10, 2009, 10:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What's funny Tex, is his audience is growing even more now, as has been mentioned already, and those who think he's too radical and divisive have probably never listened. He's a cupcake compared to Olbermann, Maher and Garafalo ... and a heck of a lot funnier.
    I do listen to him to a point; but I can't stand his hate (lack of civility), name calling and complete exaggeration of almost any issue. We've talked about that previously and I'm a civility guy and I think most American's are too; or want to a return to a more civil dialogue. I personally I am more compelled to listen to the conservative message from like Bill O'Reilly, he's really quite civil in my view.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 10:35 AM
    I gotcha Tex, but the point is the real Rush and the one that’s been created by his critics are two vastly different things, and his critics tend to be miles more divisive and radical.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 10:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I gotcha Tex, but the point is the real Rush and the one that’s been created by his critics are two vastly different things, and his critics tend to be miles more divisive and radical.
    How about: 'divisive, radical, and narrow-minded'.
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    Mar 10, 2009, 10:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by George_1950 View Post
    How about: 'divisive, radical, and narrow-minded'.
    Funny, I view Rush the same way. However to be honest, I don't listen to the liberals you speak of as I rarely watch TV. If they were on the radio down here in south Texas I would be able to comment on your perspective of them, but I know nothing of them unfortunately.

    The ones I hate the most are Limbaugh, Savage and Hannity; Savage and Hannity more than Rush if you can believe it. Those two will twist anything to their agenda.

    I can tolerate Medved, O'Reilly.

    There's a couple of others, and I generally don't have much time for them either.

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