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    Aug 18, 2006, 04:48 PM
    Running Drain pipes through 2 x 8 floor joists.
    I am doing an addition and need to move my 3" drain pipes. My question is can Holes be cut into the floor joists (2 x 8). to accept the 3" pipes. The pipes are for the upstairs bathrooms.
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    Aug 19, 2006, 06:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by rtravis
    I am doing an addition and need to move my 3" drain pipes. My question is can Holes be cut into the floor joists (2 x 8). to accept the 3" pipes. The pipes are for the upstairs bathrooms.

    Hi Travis, Perhaps this will help. Tom

    The 2003 International Residential Code covers this:
    Not exceeding 8 feet (2438 mm).
    R502.8Drilling and notching. Structural floor members shall
    Not be cut, bored or notched in excess of the limitations speci-
    Fied in this section. See Figure R502.8.
    R502.8.1 Sawn lumber. Notches in solid lumber joists, raf-
    Ters and beams shall not exceed one-sixth of the depth of the
    Member, shall not be longer than one-third of the depth of the
    Member and shall not be located in the middle one-third of
    The span. Notches at the ends of teres shall not exceed
    One-fourth the depth of the member. The tension side of
    Members 4 inches (102 mm) or greater in nominal thickness
    Shall not be notched except at the ends of the members. The
    Diameter of holes bored or cut into member shall not exceed
    One-third the depth of the member. Holes shall not be closer
    Than 2 inches (51 mm) to the top or into member the member, or
    To any other hole located in the member.Where the member
    Is also notched, the hole shall not be closer than 2 inches (51
    Mm) to the notch.
    R502.8.2 Engineered wood products. Cuts, notches and
    Holes bored in trusses, laminated veneer lumber, glue-laminated-
    Members or I-joists are not permitted unless the effects
    Of such penetrations are specifically considered in the design
    Of the member.
    R602.6Drilling and notching—studs.Any stud in laminated members
    Wall or bearing partition may be cut or notched to a depth not
    Exceeding 25 percent of its width. Studs in non bearing parti-
    Tions may be notched to a depth not to exceed 40 percent of a
    Single stud width. Any stud may be bored or drilled, provided
    That the diameter of the resulting hole is no greater than 40 per-
    Cent of the stud width, the edge of the hole is no closer than 5/8
    Inch (15.9 mm) to the edge of the stud, and the hole is not lo-
    Cated in the same section as a cut or notch. See Figures
    R602.6(1) and R602.6(2).
    Exceptions:
    1. A stud may be bored to a diameter not exceeding 60
    Percent of its width, provided that such studs located
    In exterior walls or bearing partitions are doubled and
    That not more than two successive studs are bored.
    2. Approved stud shoes may be used when installed in
    Accordance with the manufacturer’s recommenda-
    Tion.
    R602.6.1 Drilling and notching of top plate.When piping
    Or ductwork is placed in or partly in an exterior wall or interior-
    Or load-bearing wall, necessitating cutting, drilling or notch-
    Ing of the top plate by more than 50 percent of its width, a
    Galvanized metal tie of not less than 0.054 inches thick
    (1.37mm) (16ga) and 11/2 inches (38mm) wide shall be fas-
    Tened to each plate across and to each side of the opening
    With not less than eight 16d nails at each side or equivalent.
    See Figure R602.6.1.
    Exception:When the entire side of the wall with the notch
    Or cut is covered by wood structural panel sheathing.

    R802.7 Cutting and notching. Structural roof members shall
    Not be cut, bored or notched in excess of the limitations speci-
    Fied in this section.
    R802.7.1 Sawn lumber. Notches in solid lumber joists, raf-
    Ters and beams shall not exceed one-sixth of the depth of the
    Member, shall not be longer than one-third of the depth of the
    Member and shall not be located in the middle one-third of
    The span. Notches at the ends of the member shall not exceed
    One-fourth the depth of the member. The tension side of members 4 inches (102 mm) or greater in nominal thickness
    Shall not be notched except at the ends of the members. The
    Diameter of the holes bored or cut into members shall not ex-
    Ceed one-third the depth of the member. Holes shall not be
    Closer than 2 inches (51mm)to the top or bottom of the member-
    , or to any other hole located in the member. Where the
    Member is also notched, the hole shall not be closer than 2
    Inches (51 mm) to the notch.
    Exception: Notches on cantilevered portions of rafters
    Are permitted provided the dimension of the remaining
    Portion of the rafter is not less than 4-inch nominal (102
    Mm) and the length of the cantilever does not exceed 24
    Inches (610 mm).
    R802.7.2 Engineered wood products. Cuts, notches and
    Holes bored in laminated veneer lumber, glue-laminated
    Members or I-joists are not permitted unless the effect of
    Such penetrations are specifically considered in the design of
    The member.
    R802.10.4 Alterations to trusses. Truss members shall not
    Be cut, notched, drilled, spliced or otherwise altered in any
    Way without the approval of a registered design professional.
    Alterations resulting in the addition of load (e.g. HVAC
    Equipment, water heater) that exceeds the design load for the
    Truss shall not be permitted without verification that the truss
    Is capable of supporting such additional loading.

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