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    Jul 14, 2006, 10:40 PM
    What's contradictory is sending people who are more victims than criminals to jail because they fall through the traps that society creates in an attempt to say how morale or ethical they are. As this thread has already shown the police can ride up on any corner and arrest a female trying to get her fix on but they never bust the call girl trolling some yuppie bar looking for lawyers and doctors and judges. So keep it off the street and out of site and its business as usual, and that is where all the money is made. Its not about God its about money power rich and poor. Now that is a contradiction. Its not about God but in the way the government does its business.
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    Jul 14, 2006, 11:29 PM
    It's really irrelevant to this discussion.
    I tend to drift off topic sometimes.
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    Jul 15, 2006, 03:35 AM
    This is one of those problems that in Theory it sounds nice, but it's just insn't practical. In the case of Las Vegas, I know there is no room to live on the strip, but I guarantee no one would want to. I also know that Las Vegas has been one of the top growing cities in America, but that is misleading to how it will handle other communities. Because the town of Las Vegas and the Strip are pretty much separated from one another, particularly by a highway cutting them off. The Rio is on the other side, but that is really only the other casino/hotel from the strip other than the freemont street. Like I stated before, it will spread I guarantee, and it will be a sad future to legalize prostitution. I personally don't think that unless you have been to Las Vegas, should you make comments about Nevada and it's going, because it's not a community for children or aspiring families. The problem with the red light district that you say will form once it's legalized will keep prostution in a corner, but it won't. What's next allowing the selling of drugs in another corner. Life finds a way(Jurassic Park). It will spread, and I know it will. It might be economically feasible to legalize prostitution however it opens the flood gates for some much more, and it really seems like there could be a more sensible solution. Maybe cracking down on it, isn't fixing it, but surely legalizing it is too drastic. Either way, I would not raise a family in a city that promotes it, because I do fear the worst, I fear that it would turn in to Las Vegas, and if that is what the future holds, I'm coming to canada. Either way I still get to watch hockey.
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    #24

    Jul 15, 2006, 03:40 AM
    At one time I heard that they were thinking about legalizing in some parts of canada as well. I do not think it ever happened. The same goes for crack houses.

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    Jul 15, 2006, 05:39 AM
    I hate to blow everyone's bubble, but gambling drugs and prostitution are growing in every city across the country and history tells us that putting people in jail only makes for the building of more prisons that cost YOU more money. The social impact is devastating to families. We need a better solution not more bury our head in the sand. These problems have been around for centuries and have grown steadily.
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    #26

    Jul 15, 2006, 08:00 AM
    I agree with talaniman these problems have been around for many years !

    After all the claim is "prostitution oldest profession in the world"

    Regards jails, it seems that prison time in this day and age does not stop people from going out and committing crime as fact shows that there are more repeat offenders ! If there is too be a crack down on matters than it needs to be a hard line policy from the start to end.

    There is little point in sending police officers out to arrest street walkers, when they would be better off going after the big fish.

    A lot of prostitution where it is not legal, see's it being linked to drugs and gangs etc.
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    Jul 15, 2006, 08:00 AM
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    Prostitution oldest profession in the world
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    #28

    Jul 15, 2006, 08:02 AM
    What about the cops who actually are involved in literally picking up prostitutes for themselves?
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    #29

    Jul 15, 2006, 08:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesushelper76
    What about the cops who actually are involved in literally picking up prostitutes for themselves?
    IMO they are not real cops if they are doing these things ! Cops in most parts of the world have taken an oath to Up Hold The Laws of the Land.
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    #30

    Jul 15, 2006, 08:13 AM
    I have watched documentation about prostitution and how cops turn the other way because there have been undercover operations where they found that cops actually get involved in these rings. I agree, if they are partaking in this activity they do not deserve the badge but it does happen.

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    Jul 15, 2006, 08:18 AM
    I think the bigger question is why are men so willing to pay for sex? If we weren't so willing to pay for it would they just go away?
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    #32

    Jul 15, 2006, 08:21 AM
    Good point Talaniman, Could not comment. A lot of men are into dirty sex. Prostitutes are filthy. You are right in stating that maybe if men did not pay for those services maybe they would just go away.
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    #33

    Jul 15, 2006, 10:36 AM
    So true if they where not making any $$$ then there would not be any around as they would be doing no business ! Jesushelper your spot on, too many people want to pay for dirty sex with filthy people.
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    #34

    Jul 15, 2006, 02:16 PM
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    EXACTLY
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    #35

    Jul 15, 2006, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Starman
    Wouldn't it be a bit contradictory for a government that claims in God it trusts to legalize things that the God it claims it trusts condemns?
    I assume this refers to the USA?

    I ask this, what about abortion? Or same sex marriage? Some states are in favour of that, and legalize that in the USA, but wouldn't that be “against god” as well?

    For the record, I support all 3. Just trying to point out that perhaps it is not so much of a slippery slope.


    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman
    I think the bigger question is why are men so willing to pay for sex? If we weren't so willing to pay for it would they just go away?
    It would go away if no one was paying for it.

    But the point is, there is a market for it out there.

    Why do men do it?

    A lot of reasons.

    Not getting enough at home, don't have a girlfriend and want some sex, etc.
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    #36

    Jul 15, 2006, 02:26 PM
    So who should go to jail?
    The people who want it or
    The people who provide it?
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    #37

    Jul 15, 2006, 02:36 PM
    How about both?
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    #38

    Jul 15, 2006, 02:41 PM
    Or how about none of them?
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    #39

    Jul 15, 2006, 02:51 PM
    I guess it is a never ending question. There are so many different options on how to approach and deal with the problem.
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    Jul 15, 2006, 03:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesushelper76
    I guess it is a never ending question. There are so many different options on how to approach and deal with the problem.
    The approach of the last 2000 years has not worked!

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