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    #21

    Dec 11, 2008, 03:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by neverme View Post
    Do you need to repent to be saved from hell as a bisexual or gay person?

    How does one do this?
    Each individual needs to figure out this answer for themselves personally. Love is the greatest commandment but also walking away from our sins is asked of us, but how many people do that? Is one sin worse then another that is another debate. We are all sinners and we all need forgiveness. We are all tempted by flesh, yet we also need to find our spiritual being and be more focused on the things we can not see then the things we can.
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    #22

    Dec 11, 2008, 03:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Just because you believe the scriptures does not make them true. They have no control over my life I do. You can quote the scriptures all you want but since they mean nothing to me they are just words of nonsense.
    We both know where we stand..

    Matthew 10:13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.

    Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
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    Dec 11, 2008, 03:29 PM

    This is the Christianity board, those answers attacking christianity have been deleted.

    This is not an issue about homosexual behavior, it is about how to repent for the sin.
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    Dec 11, 2008, 05:18 PM

    Neverme has had several good answers. I will add this:

    Isa 1:18
    18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
    (KJV)

    God is reasonable and can ALWAYS be reached through prayer. Just talk to Him like you would talk to anyone else. Admit your condition and your feelings freely. He already knows, but you need to speak those things to Him and then ask His guidance and help to find the proper course for your life. He has promised to meet any sincere appeal.
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    Dec 11, 2008, 06:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by neverme[QUOTE
    But why is it so wrong? Just because the bible says so?
    God describes homosexuality in the bible as "obscene and unnatural." (Romans 1:26,27) Why? For the same reason he warns about those who give way to rage or to violence. (James 1:20, Prov 16:29) His commandments are for our own good. Do you know yourself better than the one who created us?
    Think about this. Male and female genitalia fit together well yes? A male with a male on the other hand has to fill that female role right? So would this not seem unnatural and abusive of the purpose for such an act?
    In order to repent you'd need to shift your thinking from wanting to please yourself to wanting to please God.
    Isaiah 48:17 reminds us that God is the One who teaches us to benefit ourselves, who causes us to tread in the way in which we should walk. Then in vs 18 he says, "O if only you would actually pay attention to my commandments! Then your peace would become just like a river, and your righteousness like the waves of the sea."
    It doesn't sound like you have much peace at the moment.
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    Dec 11, 2008, 07:09 PM
    Moparbyfar.
    You made the point very well.
    Fred
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    Dec 12, 2008, 12:06 AM

    neverme!
    It is not about the person you are with,hurting you, but it is about the behavior.The person is as human as me and you but this behavior comes from something that is not.It comes from something that hates me and you and the person you are with and all mankind.It hates us because we are made in the image of God and it is not.It poisons us so that we can't have what it also can't have.Its name is Satan , the father of sin and he is doing everything in his power to make us like him when we are supposed to be like our real father, God!
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    #28

    Dec 12, 2008, 12:43 AM
    adam7gur,
    You are right.
    Homosexuality is NOT in the in the image of God.
    Jesus is our physical image of God.
    Though he never married (that was not a part of His Mission) he spoke of marriage between a man and a woman as being sacred.
    A same sex union is the opposite thereof.
    A persons spirit and spirituality IS the most important part of our life.
    It is our path through God's grace to eternal life.
    living in a sin that is repugnant to God destroys a person's ticket to heaven.
    That is how dangerous practicing a homosexual life style is.
    Eternity is at stake.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    #29

    Dec 13, 2008, 10:05 AM

    I Cor 6:9-10
    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not deceive, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, now swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
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    #30

    Dec 13, 2008, 07:12 PM
    450donn,
    Well said.
    Well done.
    But the person who came here with the question has said that what scripture says is not of interest to him.
    So my question is why did he come to a Christian board with his question?
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Dec 13, 2008, 07:19 PM

    Acura,

    First of all I am a woman. And I never said that what scripture has to say is no interest to me, I asked a question and am finding this hard to understand that is why I posed this question. I have read all the replies and the reason that I did not reply to them was exactly for this reason I did not want it to be perceived that I was not grateful for the replies by poking holes in them per say. Please do not make assumptions on my behalf.
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    #32

    Dec 13, 2008, 07:57 PM
    neverme
    Oops, I'm sorry.
    It was spitvenom who said that not you.
    My apologies,'
    Fred.
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    #33

    Dec 13, 2008, 08:20 PM

    That's OK I just don't want this thread to be misinterpreted as I thought it might before I posted it
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    #34

    Dec 13, 2008, 09:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by neverme View Post
    Do you need to repent to be saved from hell as a bisexual or gay person?

    How does one do this?
    So, to answer your questions, YES you need to repent and turn from that lifestyle.

    Get down on your knees and have a conversation with God, apologize for your sins, ask for the free gift of salvation that the blood of Jesus provided you. Go and sin no more. It is really that simple. The rest is where it can get complicated.
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    #35

    Dec 13, 2008, 09:43 PM
    450donn.
    Very good answer.
    Fred
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    Dec 14, 2008, 05:12 AM

    You have to love yourself above all things. If you are happy with your life as it is that is a wonderful thing but if you feel guilty that is not good. If you are a kind and loving person then that is all you need. Why would you have to repent for being you? Good luck
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    #37

    Dec 14, 2008, 05:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mikedem7 View Post
    you have to love yourself above all things. if you are happy with your life as it is that is a wonderfull thing but if you feel guilty that is not good. If you are a kind and loving person then that is all you need. why would you have to repent for being you? good luck
    Yes you have to love yourself but even a serial killer can love themselves. The Bible teaches that it is not all about you being happy with yourself. We get a lot of baggage in our life and it is good to clean house when we do.
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    #38

    Dec 14, 2008, 09:54 AM
    NOhelp4U,
    True.
    Well said.
    Fred
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    Dec 15, 2008, 11:49 AM

    I think you need your own personal relationship, with a God you understand.
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    #40

    Dec 15, 2008, 11:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mikedem7 View Post
    you have to love yourself above all things. if you are happy with your life as it is that is a wonderfull thing but if you feel guilty that is not good. If you are a kind and loving person then that is all you need. why would you have to repent for being you? good luck

    No loving yourself is far from what saves you, it may make you feel good but there are billions of happy unsaved people in the world.
    Actually in fact this attitude of if it feels good do it, is what has made society as lost as it is.

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