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Oct 23, 2008, 03:31 PM
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I must say I am straighter than most men but still have a feminine Orientation on sex. Is this good for a man or am I being to open to everyone?
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Oct 23, 2008, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WakkieRob
I must say I am straighter than most men but still have a feminine Orientation on sex. Is this good for a man or am I being to open to everyone?
No you are being truthful about how YOU feel, according to some people however, you don't exist, you are either hetro or gay.
The term that you fall under is bi-gendered. The attraction to the feminine aesthetic, while being somewhat hetrosexual.
Some misinformed people would call you a pre-op transexual, because they are close minded and see only black and white.
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Oct 23, 2008, 03:48 PM
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Don't worry I have no intention of changing my gender I have what I got and that's all I need. Actually its not I need lots of sex as well I one of these people you call can't get enough.
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Oct 23, 2008, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Xrayman
no you are being truthful about how YOU feel, according to some people however, you don't exist, you are either hetro or gay.
the term that you fall under is bi-gendered. The attraction to the feminine aesthetic, while being somewhat hetrosexual.
some misinformed people would call you a pre-op transexual, because they are close minded and see only black and white.
What is "attraction to the feminine aesthetic while being somewhat heterosexual"? You mean a straight guy who dresses in women's clothing and tries to appear female? Is that it?
At any rate, some things in life are black and white and when it comes to male sexual orientation I think it really is a bit simpler than many people would like to think it is.
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Oct 23, 2008, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cadillac59
What is "attraction to the feminine aesthetic while being somewhat heterosexual"? You mean a straight guy who dresses in women's clothing and tries to appear female? Is that it?
No that's called a transvestite or possibly a transexual trying to determine how it would feel within the gender identity of a woman.
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Oct 23, 2008, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cadillac59
I've mentioned this before. Yes there was a study done I believe through the University of Chicago done in association with researchers from a University in Toronto. The results were reported in the New York Times a few years ago and the study concluded that bisexuality in men likely did not exist (or at least the study cast VERY serious doubt on whether it existed) because it found a majority of bisexual men to respond to sexual stimuli (by use of gay and straight porn) exactly as gay men with a minority responding exactly as straight men. In other words, there was no unique bisexual response to the same stimuli suggesting that bisexuality in men (the study did not involve women) was not a stable sexual orientation as was heterosexuality and homosexuality. Hence, it could represent only a transitional state or be the result of confusion is definitions of sexual orientation.
It was an interesting study, highly criticized however and it admittedly only involved a small sample size but it still raised some fascinating questions.
I can see why that would be so highly criticized. First of all, they admitted that the sample size was small, yet they concluded that "The majority of all bi men respond the same way as gay men" so if the majority of what, 10 people, responded then that's a study that you can rely on for worldwide discrimination? Well anyway I'm sure it was more than 10... But in their "findings", there were at least some men who responded exactly as straight men. So basically the study found that some men still have bi-sexual feelings. But what is their conclusion? That bisexuality "could represent only a transitional state or be the result of confusion." on what grounds exactly? How has this study proved it likely that bi sexuality doesn't exist?
Nothing in life is black and white, nothing is divided between one or the other. Even life and death. It just is what it is, everything is connected
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Oct 23, 2008, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sad_eyes
i can see why that would be so highly criticized. first of all, they admitted that the sample size was small, yet they concluded that "The majority of all bi men respond the same way as gay men" so if the majority of what, 10 people, responded then thats a study that you can rely on for worldwide discrimination? well anyway im sure it was more than 10... But in their "findings", there were atleast some men who responded exactly as straight men. so basically the study found that some men still have bi-sexual feelings. but what is their conclusion? that bisexuality "could represent only a transitional state or be the result of confusion." on what grounds exactly?? how has this study proved it likely that bi sexuality doesnt exist?
nothing in life is black and white, nothing is divided between one or the other. even life and death. it just is what it is, everything is connected
You are misunderstanding the study. You have to understand a basic premise under which the reseachers were operating (and I think a valid one): sexual arousal in men = sexual orientation. Thus, gay men should be aroused by visual depictions of gay sex but not sex involving women. The study consistently showed this to be true. Straight men should be aroused by visual depictions of heterosexual sex but not gay sex. The study consistently showed this to be true. Therefore, if bisexuality truly exists along side homosexuality and heterosexuality, bisexual men should be aroused by viewing both gay sex and heterosexual sex. Right? At the very least they should show different arousal patterns compared with strictly gay or straight men. It seems consistent, doesn't it? But what were the results? Not at all what you would expect if bisexuality truly exists: The majority of the so-called bisexual men responded exactly like gay men and the minority exactly like straight men. Hence, the majority of the "bisexual" men were likely just gay men using a different label for themselves for whatever reason and the minority of "bisexual" men were just straight men also using a different label for themselves.
There is no such thing as "bisexual feelings"- they are only gay and straight feelings.
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BossMan
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Oct 23, 2008, 09:06 PM
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As the OP is clearly blinkered and obviously has their own agenda on this issue, I am closing this thread.
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