[arcura]

sndbay ,
McCain is NO saint.
But...
Don't make light of the true fact that Obama is extremely liberal in regard to abortions.
IF he becomes president he will try to make abortions easier to get and set aside the partial birth abortion ban.
That means that MILLIONS more of persons in the womb will be killed.
That's more people killed than in our two world wars.
There is no political subject more important than abortions.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[Wondergirl]

sndbay ,
Don't make light of the true fact that Obama is extremely liberal in regard to abortions.
IF he becomes president he will try to make abortions easier to get and set aside the partial birth abortion ban.
That means that MILLIONS more of persons in the womb will be killed.
That's more people killed than in our two world wars.

You've heard Obama say this, or he told you this?

[sndbay]

sndbay ,
McCain is NO saint.
But.....
Don't make light of the true fact that Obama is extremely liberal in regard to abortions.
IF he becomes president he will try to make abortions easier to get and set aside the partial birth abortion ban.
That means that MILLIONS more of persons in the womb will be killed.
That's more people killed than in our two world wars.
There is no political subject more important than abortions.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

Hello there Fred, I already posted #17 and #40.. And abortions is {{not}} the WILL of GOD nor is same sex marriages. The wrath of God could come as the result of this action.

1. reap what we sow = failing economy
2. fighting evil for freedom and peace =Afghanistan war
3. fighting to save the innocents from evil = Iraq war
4. known thereout the scriptures = Relations with our allies
5. bondage without recourse = whipsawing stock market
6. false priorities = poor education in US
7. forgetful of God and in Him that brings hope = on and on!

(perhaps God would allow are children to benefit by wisdom if we brought back the bible in history study within the schools.

8. same sex marriages = Sodom and Gomorrah
9. innocent babies abortion = killing the innocent
10. race and gender issues = love one another

[ZoeMarie]

Is anyone going to bring up the issues of abortions because of rape or lethal conditions? These are 2 reasons I think that a girl should have a choice. My cousin found out she that her baby would be stillborn if she made it through the whole pregnancy and the doctors said the chances that she would survive to carry the baby to term were slim. The baby had a lethal condition and had 69 chromosomes. I think girls in these kind of situations should have a choice. It broke her heart to follow through with it because she wanted a little girl for so long.

[Fr_Chuck]

Obamas voting record, he did not support the ban on partial birth abortions. One just has to look at his voting record on this issue.

On economy, OK Bush did not stop it, but the program on the high risk loans to people that can not afford them started with Clinton, his last year,
So basically the house loan fall is a democrat program that is now finally hitting, as was warned when it was first started.
** not again Bush did not try to stop the program but it was not his program.

[Wondergirl]

The Republicans got the banks deregulated.

[sndbay]

Is anyone going to bring up the issues of abortions because of rape or lethal conditions? these are 2 reasons I think that a girl should have a choice. My cousin found out she that her baby would be stillborn if she made it through the whole pregnancy and the doctors said the chances that she would survive to carry the baby to term were slim. The baby had a lethal condition and had 69 chromosomes. I think girls in these kind of situations should have a choice. It broke her heart to follow through with it because she wanted a little girl for so long.

My heart always goes out to those in times of sorrow, and pain. And this pain whether before birth on earth or before death that is followed by a spiritual birth, has a greater chance for rejoiced thanksgiving, if with the love of God each choice is held in stedfast belief to prayer in the Name of Jesus (His Will be done. John 14:13)
In any case each soul belongs to God. (Ezekiel 18:4) It is against God's commandments in premeditated innocence of death to take a life.
The gift of birth is a blessing, as is the birth of resurrection. Absence from this world is present with the Lord. (2 Corinthians 5:7-8 Ecclesiasters 12:6-7 ) Rest in comfort to do the Will the God.

According to your faith be it unto you.

[JoeT777]

Obamas voting record, he did not support the ban on partial birth abortions. One just has to look at his voting record on this issue.

On economy, ok Bush did not stop it, but the program on the high risk loans to people that can not afford them started with Clinton, his last year,
So basicly the house loan fall is a democrat program that is now finally hitting, as was warned when it was first started.
** not again Bush did not try to stop the program but it was not his program.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Max strated under Carter. I don't know if you're old enough to remember those days. If you waited more than a week or two to take your pay check (assuming you were working) to the grocery store it lost buying power. Also, if you had a job, you couldn’t get a raise; the Fed’s tried to control wage and prices. It didn’t work, only wages were controlled, prices continued to skyrocket. My work day was upwards of 16 hours most days of the week, working to support my family and attending College. Sunday Mass was sleep time. If you want a return to these Good ol' days, just leave me out.

Obama’s programs remind me of the Greater Carter years (all the 20-somethings voted for him, they wanted CHANGE Too -sound familiar?) - I was smarter; but it didn’t do any good – he still got elected. Inflation was running extremely high. The prime rate was as high as 20% - maybe more. Gasoline became difficult to find at reasonable prices. Reinvigorating the “Great Society” the government erected slums which were destroyed by the tenants within a few short years. To add insult to the Democrat surrender of Vietnam, Iranian Marist radicals invaded the US Embassy in 1978 taking hostages. They weren’t released until after Ragan took office.

When I came back from Vietnam in 1969 I had to suffer the humiliation of the lying John Kerry and his Clan of Communist (not to mention the Bill Ayers group. I guess I must’ve been Genghis Khan’s right had man – having lived in south Asia I knew how the people were enslaved by communism and socialism. I volunteered to go to Asia.)

I came to realize the Democrats didn’t just represent these groups; they are thousands of John Kerrys the Bill Ayers. Democrats are intellectual fascists, terrorists, and power mongers. To this day I relate "un-American" with the Democrat Party. I don’t hold a grudge long, but I’ll never vote for the people that spat on Marines returning from their tour in Vietnam. They did their duty: winning the battles, they fought the jungles, built roads, bridges and they cared for those caught in the middle of the conflict. John Murtha, like Kerry, shows his respect for the men and women in the armed forces and supports Obama'a view of the military by accusing our men of, “[killing] innocent civilians in cold blood.” By the way, all the accused have been acquitted. But, of course these high mighty intellectuals are above apologies. The scumbags.

Obama is the political son of Ayers, the brother of Murtha and Kerry, and a socialist. I don’t look for a good future if he gets elected. Notice that in a speech yesterday he implied that “sacrifice” was necessary for our economic future, (these intellectuals sacrifice what you work for). He said that we can’t live the life style we once did- his administration is dedicated to make sure that everybody shares the wealth (after tax of course). He’ll make Castro look as innocent Carter.

You got to be kidding, I’ll never vote Democrat. I don’t care if Obama is the messiah of change.

Gee, I only meant to tell you about how bad socialist Democrats can make the economy. Sorry for the rant; but look at the bright side, now you’ll get a lot of traffic on this thread.

Semper Fi

JoeT

[arcura]

Wondergirl
Yes Obama said that.
His voting record proves that.
Vote your Christian conscience and live with it.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[arcura]

JoeT777,
Yes you are right but it was the Clinton administration what expanded the housing loan companies' ability to loan to high risk people.
I do have to admit that I not only voted for Carter. I actively campaigned for him.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[JoeT777]

JoeT777,
Yes you are right but it was the Clinton administration what expanded the housing loan companies’ ability to loan to high risk people.
I do have to admit that I not only voted for Carter. I actively campaigned for him.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

NOOOO! Not you!

I tried to re-inlisted during the Carter years to feed my family! That's how rough it got. At least you know why I'll never vote Democrat. We, the taxpaying people, were little more than experiments in their bid for power.

JoeT

[arcura]

JoeT777,
Yes, Joe, Now I know.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[JoeT777]

JoeT777,
Yes, Joe, Now I know.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

That’s OK Fred, now we both know. But, the least we can do is warn the 20-somethings that, like Panoccio learned, there are no free rides. Somebody pays or we turn into donkeys.

JoeT

[arcura]

JoeT777,
Indeed!!
Fred

[Cyprine]

You've heard Obama say this, or he told you this?

Oh please, like he will ever admit it, or worse, volunteer this information that will let people know how he really thinks.

Actions speak louder than words. You need to learn how to put 2 and 2 together.

A lot of little incongruities with a recurrent theme.

[Cyprine]

At least he hasn't cheated on his wife or publicly used obscenities (commited adultery and dishonored his spouse) or publicly told jokes about Chelsea Clinton's parentage (bore false witness). What does God say about those?

Obama didn't vote for Roe v. Wade. Partial-birth abortion, he says, should be done only if the life of the mother is in jeopardy.

Well I think we all have our "sins" however I will vote for the more experienced man, who I can tell loves his country and wants to take care of it.
In this fragile time, politically and economically.
And the one without all the red flags about his past, his associations, his school of thought, please.
And no I don't want free giveouts/handouts. I want competition and better prices, more jobs.
I want to create new wealth not recycle it. I don't want to try the "trickle-up poverty" experiment, no thanks.

[Wondergirl]

Well I think we all have our "sins" however I will vote for the more experienced man, who I can tell loves his country and wants to take care of it. In this fragile time, politically and economically.
And the one without all the red flags about his past, his associations, his school of thought, please.
And no I don't want free giveouts/handouts. I want competition and better prices, more jobs.
I want to create new wealth not recycle it. I don't want to try the "trickle-up poverty" experiment, no thanks.

Then you will certainly be happy when Barack Obama becomes president.

[Cyprine]

Obamas voting record, he did not support the ban on partial birth abortions. One just has to look at his voting record on this issue.

On economy, ok Bush did not stop it, but the program on the high risk loans to people that can not afford them started with Clinton, his last year,
So basicly the house loan fall is a democrat program that is now finally hitting, as was warned when it was first started.
** not again Bush did not try to stop the program but it was not his program.

Actually, Bush raised red flags starting in April 2001. Warnings escalated thereafter. He (or his admin) did propose legislation to regulate this program, but the ALL the democrats voted against it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPSDnGMzIdo

They were more concerned with promoting their naïve agenda.

From what I have seen, it is the pragmatic right that benefits the common people more, despite all the rhetoric from the left.

Bill Clinton agrees that democrats caused financial crisis.

[Cyprine]

That's ok Fred, now we both know. But, the least we can do is warn the 20-somethings that, like Panoccio learned, there are no free rides. Somebody pays or we turn into donkeys.

JoeT

I agree. We need to counteract misinformation. I myself am in my mid twenties, but yes, most young people lean democratic.

I really don't care about party loyalty, but rather finding the truth, and I've found more BS in the left than in the right. Sorry. That's my story so far.

[Cyprine]

Then you will certainly be happy when Barack Obama becomes president.

Ha ha haha ha ha