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Oct 16, 2008, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
ex, you'll have to remind me exactly when Bush deliberately lied under oath about the firings. You know, just like Clinton deliberately lied under oath. That law seems fairly clear also, doesn't it?
Hello again, Steve:
I got it, it's only a lie if you're under oath...
You should quit while you're ahead. Bwa, ha ha ha.
excon
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Oct 16, 2008, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
I got it, it's only a lie if you're under oath....
You should quit while you're ahead. Bwa, ha ha ha.
No, a lie is a lie, but the subject was the courts and the law and I've stayed on topic. So what's the law? Did Bush perjure himself as Clinton did?
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Oct 16, 2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
No, a lie is a lie, but the subject was the courts and the law and I've stayed on topic. So what's the law? Did Bush perjure himself as Clinton did?
I thought it was more in the "abuse of power" realm.
"There are certain powers a President legitimately holds. This is necessary in order for him to do his job. However, if the President uses those powers to stall investigation into corruption that may embarrass his own party or to otherwise compromise the judiciary, that is abuse of power."
Also: Inside Bush's prosecutor purge | Salon News
Former officials, legal scholars and U.S. lawmakers from both parties have publicly questioned the administration's stated rationale for the firings and have suggested troubling theories about the real reasons for the purge, which experts say is without precedent. Some former Justice Department officials say they believe the administration's moves are a politically driven power grab -- aimed not only at a tighter grip on policy from Washington, but also at creating openings with which to reward their friends and build up a bench of conservative loyalists positioned to serve in powerful posts in future administrations.
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Oct 16, 2008, 08:57 AM
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Off we go on a tangent:
This is what the Obama's campaign wants to divert attention away from his involvement with ACORN and VOTER FRAUD.
I don't know the legalities of these things, but I think VOTER FRAUD is worse than a fellatio on the side or Gonzo firing some opposing lawyers.
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Oct 16, 2008, 09:59 AM
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Because McCain and ACORN agree on the ridiculous notions of open borders does not imply that he agrees with their attempt to steal the election for Obama.
ACORN is upset that he has abandoned his historic support after they are actively committing voter fraud on behalf of OBAMA against McCain ? Where is their loyalty ?
Fight the FACT forgot to mention the time that Obama was on their legal team when they were part of a lawsuit against Citibank ;pressuring the bank to loosen it's loan qualifications under the CRA .
It is a fact that Obama trained Chi-town ACORN operatives in the rules of Alinsky . According to ACORN, Obama trained its Chicago members in leadership seminars; in turn, ACORN volunteers worked on his campaigns. Obama also sat on the boards of the Woods Fund and Joyce Foundation, both of which poured money into ACORN's coffers.
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:07 AM
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NK;
From your 1st link , just a picture.
"sitting beside Florida Rep. Kendrick Meek at an event Acorn co-sponsored in Florida"
Unlike Obama, McCain's claim to fame is sacrifce for his country.
Unlike McCain, Obama's claim to fame is being a "community organizer" with ACORN.
This is a major part of his resume, and what he and other people think makes him qualified to be POTUS????!!!
As to your 2nd link
User:Noroton/The case for including ACORN - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"What you won't hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon -- that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize." – Barack Obama, June 3, 2008
Ben Smith's Blog - Politico.com
And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
The Associated Press: Murtha: Western Pa. 'racist' but Obama should win
The working-class region is a key battleground in Pennsylvania. The area is struggling economically, and has a high percentage of veterans and elderly voters
These are the folks Democratic Murtha calls "racists"
JohnMcCain.com - McCain-Palin 2008
It may be typical of the pro-Obama... crowd to disparage a fellow countryman's memory of war from the comfort of mom's basement, but most Americans have the humility and gratitude to respect and learn from the memories of men who suffered on behalf of others.
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:13 AM
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Wow, that last quote is a pathetic grasp at heartstrings. Nothing wrong with the Obama quotes though.
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:23 AM
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Hello again:
Not being a member of any party, I'm free to cast stones, and I do...
You scream about ACORN, but you're silent on voter caging... One is the lefts' attempt at manipulating elections. The other, the rights. Both sides do it - some more effectively than others...
I don't know why they think they should try to win the elections THAT way... But, politics is a dirty business.
Besides, I don't know why you're yellin so loud about ACORN. It doesn't matter matter how many people they fraudulently register, cause you guy's control the voting machines!!
Bwa, ha ha ha.
excon
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:23 AM
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Nothing wrong with Obama and the Dems, like Murtha, being hypocrites too. ;)
As to liberals viewing McCain's service to his country as "pathetic" is sadly typical and to be expected.
How far has the left taken the Democrats from the days of JFK :confused:
Would you view his service [ pt 109 ]
As
A pathetic grasp at heartstrings
:eek: :confused:
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by inthebox
As to liberals viewing McCain's service to his country as "pathetic" is sadly typical and to be expected.
You are a horrible person to twist my words to your benefit. Truly horrible.
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:27 AM
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FBI is investigating ACORN
Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud
On a related note :
In Ohio a reluctant State Att General has been ordered by court to verify 200,000 potentially fraudulent voter registrations that she tried to sit on and cover up . Nearly 1 of 3 of the "new" voter registrations don't match DMV or Social Security records but she is FIGHTING to not provide that information to the county Boards of Election.
As everyone recalls ,Ohio was the deciding state in the 2004 election.
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:31 AM
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NK:
Read over what you wrote on post 49
Am I a "horrible " person because I don't support Obama and believe every word he says?
;)
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Oct 16, 2008, 10:32 AM
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Sorry Tom for falling for the diversion away from Obama and ACORN
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