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    Oct 7, 2008, 02:51 PM
    To settle an argument
    Does the royal naval college in Dartmouth count as a ship, what do you think?

    I say no because it is a brick building and it does and cannot be sailed or float on water. Its on a hill.

    My friend says yes, because it is listed as a ship 'the HMS Dartmouth' in the royal navy it is permantly moored in Dartmouth and it has all the things that a ship has, such as; a mast, a deck, a crew, a captain, a chaplaincy, it flies the white ensign and when you leave the grounds you technically count as going ashore, aside from the fact that it is not sea worthy.
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    Oct 7, 2008, 02:57 PM

    You are confusing. The HMS Dartmouth was decommissioned and sold for scrap in l930. There could not two of them with the same name. RN wouldn't do that. So what ship do you mean that is permanently docked in Darthmouth.

    If it is not a ship, it won't be counted as a ship. No the Royal Navy College is not counted as a ship.
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    Oct 7, 2008, 02:58 PM

    More than one ship bears the same name, the currant HMS Dartmouth is the RNC
    The thing is it is counted as a ship by the royal navy its listed in their list of ships, but still I think 'if it hasn't ever or can't float on water its not a ship'
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    Oct 7, 2008, 03:57 PM

    If it is on the list of official ships of the Royal Navy, it is a ship as they see it. Maybe it is necessary to comply with law reagrding allocation of the budget?

    Here is wik's definition under heading of
    List of Ships of the Royal Navy:

    This is an alphabetical list of all the names of ships that have ever been in service with the Royal Navy. Many of the names have been re-used over the years and thus represent more than one ship.

    Altogether over 13,000 ships have been in service with the Royal Navy.[1]

    Note that, unlike many other naval services, the Royal Navy designates certain types of shore establishment (e.g. barracks and naval airfields) as 'ships' and names them accordingly. These establishments are often referred to in service slang as stone frigates.
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    Oct 7, 2008, 04:02 PM

    Yea they class it as a ship, but its not a ship is it, really, c'mon it's a building, it doesn't float and last I checked the definition os a ship meant it was a vessle that floatd, it doesn't even look like one, have you seen it.
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    Oct 8, 2008, 02:45 AM

    Why don't you phone the Naval Academy to ask, and settle the argument that way.
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    Oct 8, 2008, 02:46 AM

    Because they'd say in their eyes it is, and it's a biased point of view

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