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THESE ARE ALL RECENTLY RELEASED PUBLIC AWARENESS STATEMENTS BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE PROOF YOU'LL NEED TO NEVER DEAL WITH WILSHIRE OR ANY OTHER BUSINESS LIKE THIS!
I am a tenant in property that "Wilshire Holding Group, Inc" has aquired the Deed to, in fact they aquired Deeds to 3 properties on my street, which have 2 rentals at each property, so 6 rentals. I have lived here for 8 years, and many of my neighbors have lived here for 5 years or more, with no problems. In February 2009, "Wilshire" sent a letter notifying 2 of us that they were the new property owners, and to mail rent to them. Now I wouldn't have been so sceptical but:
1- The letter didn't have a postmark anywhere on the envelope
2- The return address was in Santa Clarita, California
3- Inside were self addressed stamped envelopes to mail our rent to a P.O.Box in Land O Lakes Florida
4- The letter stated to contact "Lisa" on her direct line, which was a Las Vegas number, and when each of us tenants called, we could never get an answer or any kind of voice mail of machine to leave a message, no matter what time of day or night we called.
After not beign able to contact anyone we looked "Wilshire" up online and were all in shock about the "claims" and the pictures of his staff, looked so generic, and thought some might possibly be hookers. At this time, the website had a Las Vegas Address listed as their business address and "Lisas" direct line as the business number.
Within a few days from the first time I looked at their website, it all changed, it looked more "professional" the address changed to 18803 Soledad Canyon Rd. Canyon Country, Ca 91351 and now had 877 and 800 numbers.
On May 17, 2009 I printed out some pages from their site and everything was the same.
On May 22, 2009, I was showing a neighbor their page and I couldn't believe it, they added a staff member "Nicole" and the address had changed AGAIN, its now 27013 Langside Ave, Ste C, Canyon Country, Ca 91355 AND has P.O. Box 1067, Land O Lakes, Fl 34639 listed.
I too, looked on the BBB right away. In February 2009 "Wilshire Holding Group" had a D- for their grade. The BBB stated this grade was given becasue they couldn't verify that the business was doing business with valid and required licenses. They were listed as a Las Vegas business then. To my surprise, when I logged onto BBB May 17 2009, the BBB had NR or No Rating for "Wilshire Holding Group" but amazingly had another business "Wilshire Holding Group INC" listed as one of their "Accredited Businesses" with an A- as the grade and a "business license" # listed in Florida. After researching the BBB, I found that you can't go back and look at past "gradings" and that to be an "Accredited Business" with them, the business listed pays $500 a year to be an "Accredited BBB Business" which is where the money to pay the BBB's employees and expenses comes from, those very businesses that pay to be "Accredited" Now how does that work out? If the BBB was giving "bad" grades to these businesses then that business probably won't pay for their "Accredidation" next year. The BBB has been under scrutney for their business practices for years now. I DON'T TRUST THE BBB after my own experience. Search "Wilshire Holding Group" (no INC) and see what comes back.
After reseaching "Stuart Vener" (who also goes by Vener Stuart) and finding his numerous "real estate" businesses that have been listed at his home address and P.O. Box 1067 in Florida, and ones in Las Vegas Nevada, and the numerous times hes changed his business names, and the numerous times he's been sued, had leins against his properties, and not to mention that he has had "Lingere, Escort and Dating" businesses in He and his son Chris Vener's names in Clark County, Las Vegas (which supports my "hooker" comment from before) he seems to be a CON ARTIST!
He also claims to have real estate license in California and Nevada but if you search
CA Dept of Real Estate-
Department of Real Estate Home Page
1-click on the "Consumers" tab
2-click on "License Status Check"
3-type in "Vener"
4-click find
Click on Vener, Stuart David to see his status;
You see his "Broker" license (#00875431) was in Las Vegas and expired in 2000 and there is NO RECORD of any other type of Real Estate License in CA for him.
In Nevada-
License Lookup
1-click Continue
2-scroll down and in the Last Name box type Vener
3-click search- this takes a few minutes but it really is searching
When its done there will be a list under the search box area
click on "Vener, Stuart"
You can see the only thing under his name is a BROKER license (#B.0022237.INDV) that expired 4/30/1999
You can click back to the search page and search "Wilshire Holding Group Inc" and you'll see that- "No Results Found for Specified input" is what the search result is, which means they're not doing business legally in Nevada.
I also researched public records on the internet FOR FREE, 2 counties in California where I knew for a fact "Wilshire" had aquired Deeds from and found the results to be very upsetting. In ALL cases, the people who hired "Wilshire" end up having the forecloser process started OR being foreclosed on and losing their property in the end, within just a few months of Deeding their property over to "Wilshire." Here are the links to those counties, take a look yourself-
Tehama County-
TehamaPublic.CountyRecords.com
1-Click "Search Now" then "Official Records thru 00/00/2009"
2-In the "Grantor or Grantee" box type Wilshire Holding Group Inc
3-you can press enter or click search
THEN go back to the search page but this time,
In the "Grantor or Grantee" box type the last name of one of the people "Wilshire" got the Deed from, here are the names of the people from Tehama County-
Palmer, Eugene
Palmer, Jeanie
Valdovines, Jamie
Valdovines, Alysa
Monterey County has a strange web address but it is Monterey Countys Official Website
Monterey County-
Monterey County Recorder's Office
1-on the left side of the page click on Official Records
2-click on Granor/Grantee
3-In the "Grantor or Grantee" box type Wilshire Holding Group Inc
4-click search
THEN go back to the search page but this time,
In the "Grantor or Grantee" box type the last name of one of the people "Wilshire" got the Deed from, here are the names of the people from Monterey County-
Palmer, Jeanie
Torres, Ofelia
Espinoza, Juventino
Notice the order or the dates when different things happen (deed transfers, notice of default, notice of sale) and notice that "Wilshire" has the Deed, but the Notice of Default and Notice of Trustees Sale are ONLY given to the persons who DEEDED their property over to "Wilshire," with "Wilshire" having no financial or legal liabilty to anything! Notice that the Valdovines lose their prorerties, and they are sold at a courthouse auction. I've seen the records and what the highest bid was and "Wilshire" does not buy the property, nor do they owe anything on the property.
And in Clark County Nevada, you'll find that "Wilshire Holding Group Inc" has 2 Lein's and 2 Notice of Default's against them all occuring in 2009 most recent was 3/18/2009. Does this sound like actions that would be taken against a good business to you?
Clark County Recorder-
http://recorder.co.clark.nv.us/extRe...pleSearch.y=14
1-type in "Wilshire Holding Group"
2-hit enter
3-click in the box next to "Wilshire Holding Group Inc" name
4-click detail data
The Requestor is the person taking action, the 1st 2nd 3rd ext... Party, is the person action is being taken against. Document type is pretty obvious what it means. You can see "Wilshire" has a few things going on....
Needless to say, "Wilshire" aquired the properties in Jan 2009 the properties in my neighborhood got Notice of Defaults, AFTER "Wilshire" aquired the Deed, and they are now being sold at the courthouse, the first one, on June 4, 2009, second one on June 10, 2009, and mine will prob be July 10, 2009 because for some reason, the Notice Of Default on my house wasn't filed until 30 days after the one being sold on June 10th so I'm just guessing July 10th will be my houses sale date.
I have much much much more INFO and RESEARCH on Stuart Vener and his past businesses and his partner Fred Claridge. I think I've said A LOT here, but if you want more info, let me know.
Hope you weren't one of the people who got "CONNED" into this "SCAM"