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Jun 23, 2008, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RickJ
For anyone on ANY side, here are some helpful articles ...
"For anyone on ANY side"?? No not really!! All three links refer to www . Catholic . Com : the RCC's own website defending it's own faults, outrages, and cruelties.
That is similar to asking a butcher to check and judge the quality of his own products !
:rolleyes:
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Jun 23, 2008, 06:02 AM
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What do you disagree with in any of those articles?
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Jun 23, 2008, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RickJ
What do you disagree with in any of those articles?
The (lacking) historic accuracy and the self-evident glossing over of it's own cruelties.
As I stated : you do not ask a butcher to check and judge the quality of his own products !
The least you could have done is supply different websites from different perspectives.
:rolleyes:
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Jun 23, 2008, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Credendovidis
No, these are not "accidents". They came into existence or were born. But that provides no logical support and/or objective supported evidence for the religious claim on the existence of some supra-natural entity ...
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Uh-huh; was is 'abracadabra' or just 'poof!'?
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Jun 23, 2008, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by George_1950
Uh-huh; was is 'abracadabra' or just 'poof!'?
Neither. All that was required was time, lot's of time...
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Jun 23, 2008, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Credendovidis
The least you could have done is supply different websites from different perspectives.
:rolleyes:
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Oh, you mean like you have for your statements? ;)
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Jun 23, 2008, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Credendovidis
Neither. All that was required was time, lot's of time ...
:rolleyes:
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I like that: "In the beginning, there was time; lots of time...." I can almost hear Carl Sagan now: "Billions and billions of years...." Which is just a huge, blank check; and a lot of faith. :)
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Jun 23, 2008, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by George_1950
I like that: "In the beginning, there was time; lots of time...." I can almost hear Carl Sagan now: "Billions and billions of years...." Which is just a huge, blank check; and a lot of faith. :)
No, not faith at all. If you would be aware of the latest astronomical and cosmological findings, you would know that a huge amount of scientific evidence from different directions and sources is available, supporting the present general scientific views on the process that was at the basis of the origin of the universe, solar system, earth, etc. I will be the first to admit that the objective evidence is not covering 100%, but how could it, approx. 14.300.000.000 years after that happened ?
The same goes in a similar way for biological findings supporting the Evolution theory, though there we talk approx. 3.500.000.000 years !
That you perhaps refuse to accept any such findings because of your religious views does not lower the scientific value and correctness of many of these findings.
I note that the objective evidence supporting religious claims never ever has exceeded 0% !
:rolleyes:
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BossMan
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Jun 23, 2008, 08:18 AM
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Jun 23, 2008, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Curlyben
Couldn't resist this just to remind everyone what we are talking about
You mean what we are NOT talking about!
This You Tube is funny. The real Inquisition was not...
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Jun 23, 2008, 08:41 AM
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You think that was not horrible? I could not bear to watch it again.
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Jun 23, 2008, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by magprob
You think that was not horrible? I could not bear to watch it again.
I mean that the Inquisition was a horrible and atrocious demonstration of religious intolerance by the RCC and of fanatic, complacent, and often self-interested behavior by it's followers, who often had more interest in their own personal gain, instead of in the Christian basic : love and forgiveness for others.
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Jun 23, 2008, 10:23 AM
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So, we can surmise from the evidence that, after all, things haven't changed much?
Tell me this then, could George Bush's actions of today be classified as a sort of Inquisition?
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Jun 23, 2008, 12:05 PM
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And what does any of the previous few posts have to do with the subject.
Nada.
Any comment, Cred.. . or are you just ranting? And by the way, ranting is just fine on these "Discussion" boards...
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Jun 23, 2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RickJ
And what does any of the previous few posts have to do with the subject. Nada.
Neither had several of your rather biased posts with links to one-sided RCC sites and with English black humor anything to do with the core of the subject question, being : " What was wrong with the Inquisition?", and with as focus of that question the atrocities that were carried out over many centuries by the RCC against humanity.
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Jun 23, 2008, 03:12 PM
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Well, Cre, you should be fair; the RCC has done much good in the world as well. Isn't the RCC entitled to claim success for defending Poland against rationalist communism? The rationalists did all they could to stamp out the bourgeoisie, but were unable to finish the job.
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Jun 23, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Jun 23, 2008, 03:37 PM
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Jun 23, 2008, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by George_1950
Isn't the RCC entitled to claim success for defending Poland against rationalist communism?
You mean that a religious organization that is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ (being love and forgiveness) can for many hundreds of years just murder hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings for no reason at all other than self-interest, if supporters of that same religion in Poland hundreds of years later stand up against the communist invader from the east?
What strange argument is that, George?
:D
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Jun 23, 2008, 03:41 PM
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A picture says more than a thousand words, magprob!
So you just said more than two thousand words...
:D
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