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this8384 · Apr 16, 2009, 09:44 AM

Judy, you copycat ;)

Also, I'd like to know how your ex "tried" to bash you for not being in your other child's life... doesn't seem like a very hard thing to do. Does this fall into the same category as "believing" you were denied visitation?

I have about 20 comments I could make right now, but I'm going to refrain because I like not being banned :)

msir · Apr 16, 2009, 09:55 AM

My other child's mother would not let me see the child, but filed for state assistance and now I'm over 30k in back support. I tried to fight that but gave up. My ex didn't bash me. She told me she found out "the truth" and called me a deadbeat. I am not sure what she measn about the truth, but I did try to see my child. In any case, it has no weight on what's going on with my younger child. She tried to bring it up at trial and that's how she found out about the back child support. She said to the judge I lied to her the entire time about my other child but I didn't know what she was talking about. I am still working on issues with the other child but she's in another state and its expensive to do.

this8384 · Apr 16, 2009, 09:59 AM

No, trying to see your child would mean you went to court and fought for visitation. You apparently didn't do that. If you had gotten a visitation order and the mother ignored it, it was your job to file for contempt. It's no one's fault but your own.

Your whole story is very tiring. Everyone else is wrong, you're always the victim... I feel bad for your kids.

JudyKayTee · Apr 16, 2009, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by msir

My other childs mother would not let me see the child, but filed for state assistance and now I'm over 30k in back support. I tried to fight that but gave up. My ex didnt bash me. She told me she found out "the truth" and called me a deadbeat. I am not sure what she measn about the truth, but I did try to see my child. In any case, it has no weight on whats going on with my younger child. She tried to bring it up at trial and thats how she found out about teh back child support. She said to the judge i lied to her the entire time about my other child but I didnt know what she was talking about. I am still working on issues with the other child but shes in another state and its expensive to do.

Maybe this doesn't matter to you but "abandonment" of child #1 is going to matter to the Court.

Gee, the mother of the child you never supported called you a deadbeat? Go figure.

this8384 · Apr 16, 2009, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Maybe this doesn't matter to you but "abandonment" of child #1 is going to matter to the Court.

Gee, the mother of the child you never supported called you a deadbeat? Go figure.

No, she "tried" to call him a deadbeat... perhaps she has stutter? :D

msir · Apr 16, 2009, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Maybe this doesn't matter to you but "abandonment" of child #1 is going to matter to the Court.

Gee, the mother of the child you never supported called you a deadbeat? Go figure.

Just to clear things up, No, the mother of child #2 called me a deadbeat when she found out about the back CS for child #1. I told her I was paying. I stopped when she changed jurisdiction and moved to another state and filed for state assistance because the home state said they no longer had jurisdiction. So I had no where to pay. Then I get the notice in the mail. Anyhow, this was all heard in the first trial. I don't think it will matter.

this8384 · Apr 16, 2009, 11:46 AM

Sooo... there was a custodial agreement in place for the first child, you were paying support, she moved without telling you and you did nothing? You don't think it will matter that you have no contact with your first child, but think you're "the better parent" to the second child? What planet are you on??

Again, you seem to think you get to make the rules in the courthouse. Wrong, wrong and wrong. Your ideas about life and children are very crooked and I'm sorry that these women have to go through this with you.

JudyKayTee · Apr 16, 2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by this8384

No, she "tried" to call him a deadbeat....perhaps she has stutter? :D

Maybe that's her belief - like in, "I believe she is withholding the child."

this8384 · Apr 16, 2009, 02:47 PM

Well, I believe that what I'm trying to say is that the OP doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of getting his kid...

I think.

JudyKayTee · Apr 16, 2009, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by this8384

Well, I believe that what I'm trying to say is that the OP doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of getting his kid....

I think.

And I believe that this thread will go on and on and on and eventually only you and I will be left standing, "talking" to each other.

I believe I'll have another glass of wine and go to bed.

msir · Apr 17, 2009, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by this8384

Well, I believe that what I'm trying to say is that the OP doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of getting his kid....

I think.

Well, I was told that I can eventually get 50/50 time and the mother would have to pay me child support because she makes more than me

this8384 · Apr 17, 2009, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by msir

Well, I was told that I can eventually get 50/50 time and the mother would have to pay me child support because she makes more than me

And who told you this? Is it the infamous "lawyer" that you have posted about before?

Do you have a steady job? How long have you lived at your current residence? Do you have a criminal record? I'm only asking because the court takes these things into consideration.

And once again, your true colors are showing. You almost had a good thing going until you went and posted, "..the mother would have to pay me child support." Absolutely devastating for that poor child.

ScottGem · Apr 17, 2009, 08:36 AM

Support is paid to the PRIMARY custodial parent. If there is not primary (like in a 50/50) then neither pays support.

this8384 · Apr 17, 2009, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by ScottGem

Support is paid to the PRIMARY custodial parent. If there is not primary (like in a 50/50) then neither pays support.

You never know, Scott. Apparently it's his "belief" that he'd get support, just like his "belief" he was denied visitation, his "belief" that he's the better parent... I could go on, but I won't.

msir · Apr 20, 2009, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by this8384

And who told you this? Is it the infamous "lawyer" that you have posted about before?

Do you have a steady job? How long have you lived at your current residence? Do you have a criminal record? I'm only asking because the court takes these things into consideration.

And once again, your true colors are showing. You almost had a good thing going until you went and posted, "..the mother would have to pay me child support." Absolutely devastating for that poor child.

I have no criminal record I am good guy, former military, divorced once. I excercisse my visitation to the fullest, except when I am late and the mother refuses to wait. That leads me t another question. I have been late several times due to congestion. I tried to ask the judge to let us meet half way, but he ordered the pickup spot to be near the mothers hous. Since we are going back to caourt also to address mothers motion for modification of visitation, can I ask she meet me half way?

Also, mom and I got into it and she said I didn't fully comply with the compel motin cause I didn't give my disability income, and I didn't give other information, such as my account of what happened on the dates in question. I also didn't give bank statements, work history, a lot of irrelevant stuff. I only gave them some information under production of documents. I didn't answer any of the interrogetories, although some of the answers, such as my salary, is shown on the paystub. Can a judge hold that against me and still make me pay for ex fees.

Originally Posted by this8384

You never know, Scott. Apparently it's his "belief" that he'd get support, just like his "belief" he was denied visitation, his "belief" that he's the better parent....I could go on, but I won't.

My states CS is based on income share. Mom makes a about 25 k more than me. In a shared custody situation, where I have over 130 nights a year, she would have to pay me child support, even if she is deemed the primary "residential parent"