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    Jul 1, 2008, 04:09 AM
    Guys we nid to be open minded... this thread will test your beliefs
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    Aug 7, 2008, 10:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    No, just thought you might like to know how it fees when you and others with no faith, post on subjects they don't beleive in.
    And to be honest for the same reason you posted this, most likely to see what you could stir up.
    You did not just think he would like to know... You were just being a bit of a smarty pants. It does not seem like a very christian thing to do. Sorry if this sounds ugly. I'm just making the observation.
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    Nov 1, 2008, 01:13 PM

    Jesus is real atist people are people who have had many things go wrong in life and prayed and nothang happened people think that prayer is like awish you ask for it your giong to get it
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    Nov 1, 2008, 01:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by irene94 View Post
    jesus is real atist people are people who have had many things go wrong in life and prayed and nothang happened people think that prayer is like awish you ask for it your giong to get it
    This is a blanket statement and is just not true. Usually they are very intellectual people that dare to question and come to the conclusion, that the bible does not resonate as truth or represent a god that is good or represents unconditional love. How many times in the bible do you find that god was angry, ordered killings, supported slavery, or that Jesus was in favor of accepting that an expensive ointment be placed on his head even if that expence could help poor people. He stated that there would always be poor people but he would not be here always.
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    Nov 16, 2008, 11:28 PM
    Firstly I really would like to see an atheist board in some section for those of us who like to discuss those issues, not trying to offend anyone, but where we can still state our opinions and thoughts respectively.
    I think this thread started here because there is no where to start something like this? Unless I missed it...
    There's nothing wrong with examining these issues, nothing can stay stagnant and unquestioned forever.

    The anthropologist Marvin Harris wrote a fascinating book on human behavior and culture. Cows, Pigs, War and Witches: The Riddle of Culture
    "Why do Hindus worship cows? Why do Jews and Moslems refuse to eat pork? Why did so many people in post-medieval Europe believe in witches? And why have witches managed to stage such a successful comeback in today's popular culture?"
    This is from the back of the book. Also one of the subjects he discusses is of Jesus. He basically claims that Jesus did exist, but not as a Messiah figure; more like a bandit, a Robin Hood figure, disowned by the Jewish people after his association with them bringing potential chaos to their society. It's been awhile since I've read it so I'll have to look into again but it's worth reading.
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    Nov 16, 2008, 11:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by irene94 View Post
    jesus is real atist people are people who have had many things go wrong in life and prayed and nothang happened people think that prayer is like awish you ask for it your giong to get it
    That's a stereotype that you should steer away from.

    I have not had many things go wrong in my life. I was raised a Christian, went to church often, Bible camp, taught Bible and Sunday school even.
    I used to pray every single night, many times every day. I have had my ups and downs as much as anyone, but I was never angry at God or the religion to make me an atheist. I was never upset if my prayers did or didn't go unanswered.

    But I just started thinking about it. I really really thought about it and realized that I only believed in this because I was raised to. Because my culture believes in it and taught it to me.
    Had I been raised a Muslim, would I have not believed in that religion instead of Christianity? Yet I would still be the same person in every other way, but believe something as serious and "true" as that? Religion if it's going to be true fact at all should be universal, and by the mere fact that it is not and it is only based on our culture and what we are taught, means that it is something that's a product of society and not actuality.

    All I did was look around and think about it.
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    Jun 24, 2010, 01:03 PM
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    But also you can not prove he is real.

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