[450donn]

For those that do not believe that pornography is not a major problem in the world.


The Statistics Are Staggering:

* 66% of Internet-using men between the ages of 18-34 look at online porn at least once a month (1)
* 55% of pastors admitted to participating with porn online. (2)
* Over 40% of women on line are involved in problematic cyber behavior. (3)
* The largest consumer of Internet pornography is the 12 to 17 year old age group. (4)
* 70% of Internet porn traffic occurs during the 9 am to 5 pm workday. (5)
* Two out of three companies have disciplined employees for misusing the Net at work and pornography topped the list of abuses (6)


References:
(1) Psychology Today September/October 2005, pg.84 (source comSource).
(2) Survey conducted by Pastors.com April 23, 2002.
(3) Counselor June 2006, pg. 34 “Women and Sex Addiction” by Dr. Patrick J. Carnes .
(4) CBS News: The Passionate Eye –“O.com. Cybersex Addiction” Aired Monday Feb 7,2005 at 9 pm on CBC-TV.
(5) SexTracker. SexTracker Universe .
(6) Saratoga Institute, 1999. http//www.pwcservices.com

[bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE]

sick sick SICK!

[Curlyben]

Moved to Member Discussions as this clearly isn't a question.

My bet is these stats are on the LOW side, especially as your sources are a number of years old.

Bear in mind that Porn is a multi BILLION dollar industry and accounts for around 80% of the internet content (ALL genres and affiliates)!

Like it or loathe it, it's here to stay.

[michealb]

* 66% of Internet-using men between the ages of 18-34 look at online porn at least once a month (1)
I don't see why this is a problem. If that's what they want to do. Who are you to say it's a problem.

* 55% of pastors admitted to participating with porn online. (2)
Churches are private companies and can set the rules for their employees but I don't see how a pastor looking at porn is a world problem.

* Over 40% of women on line are involved in problematic cyber behavior. (3)
Sounds a little high to me but again I don't see how this is any of the worlds business what a women does in her home.

* The largest consumer of Internet pornography is the 12 to 17 year old age group. (4)
This is a problem but only for the parents of those kids. More people should spend time taking care of there own kids instead of trying to fix the world maybe the world would fix it's self.

* 70% of Internet porn traffic occurs during the 9 am to 5 pm workday. (5)
So how is this a world problem. If someone wants to look at porn between 9 and 5 it's between the company they work for and them.

* Two out of three companies have disciplined employees for misusing the Net at work and pornography topped the list of abuses (6)
Sounds like companies are dealing with it.

Porn is a personal problem. Not something the world needs to get involved in. There are a lot of real problems in the world that need to be addressed, I wouldn't call porn one of them.

[450donn]

For all of you who do not believe that pornography is not a major problen in the World


The Statistics Are Staggering:

* 66% of Internet-using men between the ages of 18-34 look at online porn at least once a month (1)
* 55% of pastors admitted to participating with porn online. (2)
* Over 40% of women on line are involved in problematic cyber behavior. (3)
* The largest consumer of Internet pornography is the 12 to 17 year old age group. (4)
* 70% of Internet porn traffic occurs during the 9 am to 5 pm workday. (5)
* Two out of three companies have disciplined employees for misusing the Net at work and pornography topped the list of abuses (6)


References:
(1) Psychology Today September/October 2005, pg.84 (source comSource).
(2) Survey conducted by Pastors.com April 23, 2002.
(3) Counselor June 2006, pg. 34 “Women and Sex Addiction” by Dr. Patrick J. Carnes .
(4) CBS News: The Passionate Eye –“O.com. Cybersex Addiction” Aired Monday Feb 7,2005 at 9 pm on CBC-TV.
(5) SexTracker. SexTracker Universe .
(6) Saratoga Institute, 1999. http//www.pwcservices.com

[Alty]

Well, that's encouraging. I can honestly say that I don't fall in to any of those categories, but it's scary to think how many people are right now looking at porn on the internet. It's even scarier to think how much porn there is to look at.

[passmeby]

Well, there wouldn't be porn if there wasn't a demand for it. I don't think you can blame porn itself. You really have to blame the people who are buying/looking at the stuff. If no one was buying, there'd be no one selling, and I don't think you could reverse that and say that if there was no one selling, there'd be no one buying because the demand would still exist (it exists as a desire within) and would be sought out still.

[Choux]

The really sad thing is that young people are not able to see that in the future looking at porn has a huge downside for them. :(

Before the internet age, porn was not used very often by regular adults and not at all by children. Now we have children and adults who are computer porn addicts, people whose sex lives are eventually nothing but upping the ante as one sex act viewed repeatedly becomes boring and not able to give quick masturbatory orgasms.

Reading this board for some months, I never cease to be surprised by the large number of teens and 20 something's who have a partner not interested in sex; I think porn is the cause. That never happened when I was young. Every healthy young person was horny and trying to get laid.

Once a person becomes addicted to a certain behavior; it is very difficult to recover--it basically takes years if done at all. Too bad.

[j_troubadour]

I was previously married and one of the major downfalls of the relationship was his addiction to porn and his desire for me. The last 6 months of the marriage he wasn't interested in me sexually at all. He was more interested in porn and guys. People don't realize how much harm it really does. Guys who are really into it don't realize how much it can hurt women.

[jillianleab]

For all of you who do not believe that pornography is not a major problen in the World


The Statistics Are Staggering:

* 66% of Internet-using men between the ages of 18-34 look at online porn at least once a month (1)

Once a month? That's a problem?

* 55% of pastors admitted to participating with porn online. (2)

This doesn't bother me; they're human. But this isn't the fault of porn if looking at porn is against their religion - this is an individual problem. It's the result of preferring to violate your faith to look at boobies than be an example and abstain.

* Over 40% of women on line are involved in problematic cyber behavior. (3)

Unless you can define "probematic" this means little. And this particular stat doesn't even mention porn, it just says "cyber behavior"

* The largest consumer of Internet pornography is the 12 to 17 year old age group. (4)

This is a result of poor parental supervision.

* 70% of Internet porn traffic occurs during the 9 am to 5 pm workday. (5)

Not everyone works 9-5, but for those who do and browse porn while at work, that's a problem with the security at their office.

* Two out of three companies have disciplined employees for misusing the Net at work and pornography topped the list of abuses (6)

Again, this is a problem with company security.

I'd like to know how each of these sources define "porn"; considering it can range from "XXX Under 18 Slutz XXX" to artistic nudes or browsing online for a bikini.

Sorry, your statistics don't have me convinced that porn is a major problem in the world. But out of curiosity... what do you think should be done about it?

[Curlyben]

>Threads merged<

[Kati-Katt]

How is porn such a problem? People like to masterbate... how is that an issue? I see no actual problem... I mean it isn't like it's killing anyone or making people unhealthy... They don't have the sex in their lives so they like to do it themselves.. it miht be gross to people but a lot of people do it. And it's natural.. animals do it all of the time... why shouldn't people? We might not be animals but it's still natural and just because someone wants the pleasure doesen't mean that someone should point a finger at someone doing something nautral... thats not fair to anyone.

[kp2171]

Mixed feelings here... I tried to reply in the other thread with a lengthy post, but it was unfortunately lost when threads were merged... and I'm not going to pound it all out again. Short answer is I don't want to police anybodys bedroom (understanding there are sexual acts that should be condemned and illegal), but I also think people are idiots about sexuality and often look for short term gains with long term consequences.

My take is porn, like masturbation, is best when it doesn't take energy away from the couples relationship in bed (so its something equally shared and enjoyed) and it isn't a crutch that is needed to have a good sexual life.

We have members here who cite porn as a normal part of their sexual life, with partners they've been with for years. It can be done without tearing apart the bedroom.

My concern is how many use it as a crutch and how many use it as a means of self satisfaction, leaving their wanting, needing, neglected partner in the wake.

I have several fetishes. I can share most of them with my partner and there's balance. I don't need any of them to have a great time in the bedroom, but when I get an indulgence, it's a nice twist. For ex, I've taken several sensual pics of my partner. These are not the "hey-baby-get-neked-for-the-poloroid" type of pics. They're well thought out, have good composition. One in my bedroom is a pic of my partner starting to undress, with only her bare shoulder, middle back, and neck exposed. I love it.

Loved doing it. Composing it. Loved hanging it in the bedroom. Id rather make a dozen sensual pics of my lover than watch hours of porn. Not to say I don't get aroused by erotic media... its just not something that fits in my relationship, and would be a complete diversion of attention and energy.

Itd be nice if all partners you had were pefectly matched with you concerning sexual interests. But usually there's some compromise. My feeling is the more "crutches" you have in the bedroom, the less compatibility you have overall.

That doesn't mean you need to drop erotic media any more than you need to send that vibe back to the online store or that lingerie back to vicky's. But if its taking away from your connection to your mate, and its handicapping your ability to engage your mate without it... then it's a problem.

And I agree with many who have posted... the potential for porn being a destructive force in many relationships is real. If it weren't, the AS threads wouldn't be populated with post after post concerning porn and neglected, lonely partners.

[Choux]

There are a lot of new statistics out regarding porn and its effect on individuals and society. Also, some new books. In the last months, I have read quite a bit on the subject.

Porn is responsible for an increase in the number of sexual crimes against women and *CHILDREN*. As I mentioned previously, PC many porn viewers and addicts have to up the ante on the level of perversion it takes to make them orgasm via masturbation.

Many individuals who become porn addicts destroy their own natural sexuality! They can't perform without ritualized fake fantasy scenarios acted out by professional whores. Sad.

[startover22]

Form me, I stay far away from it... (go figure) I have watched one and only one "porno"(maybe 5 minutes with the fear of getting caught, and it was a VHS) I was 15, with my 4 best friends and we were all too embarrassed... we laughed and laughed and said ewwwww...
I wish the days were still like this. I do agree that it can be devastating if you aren't careful. Never would want it to take the place of your face to face love affair, that's for sure!
KP, I don't think a beautiful picture of your wife is porn. A bit of shoulder, a bit of her neck and back, what isn't sexy about that? Especially if you love her, makes it even better! Hmmmm, where is my camera? Just Kidding, gosh I haven't gotten that comfy yet;)

So, I guess my opinion would be porn is a problem if the porn watcher/looker lets it be one. That pretty much settles it in my mind.

[passmeby]

Choux, I like what you said about the internet age. Absolutely right. At least before the internet one actually had to show their face in an adult store in order to buy a mag or movie, or you had to cross that dreaded threshold in the video store marked 'Adults Only'. The only way a kid would see a porn mag is if he looked in Dad's drawer and even then, he could only peek for a quick second.I actually think that was good for everyone. Maybe it made people be more open and more aware of what they were about to "step in". There was a stigma attached, it was a more deliberate act. Now with practically everyone having high speed interet, it's become anonymous. Erase your history and it's like you were never there. The porn industry has obviously used this to it's advantage and has become huge business online.

All that said though, porn itself is not to blame, it's the person who is looking at it. If someone is looking at porn at work, they knew what they were doing the whole time and deserve to be fired. Oh well. Maybe they'll learn a lesson. Of course I have to think that some of what a workplace might consider "porn" may be an innocent site that maybe has some kind of adult rating for one reason or another, not because it's straight up porno.

If someone is looking at porn and in turn not paying attention to their partner, eventually it will catch up with them.

Kids looking at porn online is simply due to lack of parental involvement. That's totally on the parents. And once again, I'd bet that the porn that kids se is in the form of a pop-up or a site that is not really porn, but has an adult rating for some reason. I know that it is possible to see minor pornography online by accident, but try to go to a real porn site... you're not seeing anything (well, aside from a short intro maybe) without paying!!

About priests, well... they're human. It may be against their rules, but what do you expect? People in general are quite dishonest, get used to it.

And the question remains, what would you say needs to be done here? There's a strong demand for porn and people are paying big bucks. That says that the industry is going nowhere. Outlaw it and the desire and demand remains and the industry goes underground. There's no getting rid of it. The only thing I could really say is there needs to be stigma re-attached. Make it un-erasable in computer histories, charge credit cards with the full name and nature of the business written clearly on the statement. Have all porn sites use internet addresses that end in something like .xxx or .adu. Have an easy way to block those types of addresses on your computer with no way of getting around it.

[startover22]

passmeby, I loved your post!
I like your last paragraph, there are options, just I am not sure it would be completely legal to bring back the stigma that way... the "I hope I don't get caught" feeling and the excitement of it all. I just think it is gone. Using self control will be the only way anyone will be able to stop it. (If they even want to)

[excon]

For those that do not believe that pornography is not a major problem in the world.

Hello donn:

I'm 65 and I look at pornography much more than once a month. Maybe when I'm 80, I'll slow down...

Thanks for reporting your statistics.. It's really good to know that I'm not alone. I was beginning to think I was weird or something...

excon

[Sissy0514]

I was a manager of a call center for many yrs and we always caught employees @ work on porn sites even when we tried to block them. People will always find a way its sick.

[startover22]

I don't agree that it is sick, I do agree that many will find a way around rules to get to it.

There are things to be considered. Moderation, and viewing legal porn... (no kid crap)
Everything can be harmful if you let it become too big in your life. Like this site for example... it isn't porn, (well I think I may recall a few "posts";)) anyway, this site, I was not on here in moderation, I was on here 24 hours a day at one point and not just for a month either, I believed that to be damaging to me and my family. I use myself control now. Moderation is key... same goes for porn...