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    #1

    May 21, 2008, 06:27 PM
    What is the next number?
    What is the next number in this sequence?
    1
    721
    727
    5767
    5791
    5792

    Been trying but seem to not quite get the answer

    What I come out with seems to far out.
    I know there is ways to use comp program but not sure how to
    Get it set up LOl
    Usually do these in my head but this time its not working.
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    #2

    May 22, 2008, 11:39 AM
    6512
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    #3

    May 23, 2008, 05:03 PM
    I agree: 6512
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    #4

    May 25, 2008, 02:04 PM
    How about showing you logic for the solution.
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    #5

    May 25, 2008, 07:32 PM
    Yes, can you please show how you solved this. Even with the answer I could not figure this out and would be curious what you did. (Somehow I have a feeling this is into something over my head. :p )
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    #6

    May 25, 2008, 09:57 PM
    Now that I see the pattern after your solution, I think the next number after 6512 is 6518.
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    #7

    May 27, 2008, 04:19 AM
    Can one of you three (ebaines, washington1 or keepitsimplestupid) tell why these are the next numbers in that pattern?
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    May 27, 2008, 06:44 AM
    OK:

    1 = 1!
    721 = 1! +6!
    727 = 1! + 6! + 3!
    5767 = 1! + 6! + 3! + 7!
    5791 = 1! + 6! + 3! + 7! + 4!
    5792 = 1! + 6! + 3! + 7! + 4! + 1!

    So the real question is: what's the pattern in 1, 6, 3, 7, 4, 1,.

    It seems that there's a pattern based around the 7, which is the center term in a sequence of 7 numbers - note that 7 = 3+4 and also 7 = 6+1. So the next number in the sequence is a 6, as 1+6 = 7. Adding 6! To 5792 gives 6512. At this point the sequence is ended.
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    #9

    May 27, 2008, 09:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ebaines
    OK:

    1 = 1!
    721 = 1! +6!
    727 = 1! + 6! + 3!
    5767 = 1! + 6! + 3! + 7!
    5791 = 1! + 6! + 3! + 7! + 4!
    5792 = 1! + 6! + 3! + 7! + 4! + 1!

    So the real question is: what's the pattern in 1, 6, 3, 7, 4, 1, ...

    It seems that there's a pattern based around the 7, which is the center term in a sequence of 7 numbers - note that 7 = 3+4 and also 7 = 6+1. So the next number in the sequence is a 6, as 1+6 = 7. Adding 6! to 5792 gives 6512. At this point the sequence is ended.
    Of course, either of those 1!s could be 0!s, so perhaps the next term could be either +6! Or +7!
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    May 27, 2008, 09:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Capuchin
    Of course, either of those 1!s could be 0!s, so perhaps the next term could be either +6! or +7!
    True enough!
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    #11

    May 27, 2008, 11:38 AM
    I see said the sight impaired man as he picked up his hammer and saw!
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    #12

    May 27, 2008, 09:32 PM
    Well... I can only say it would've never occurred to me in a million years it was the sum of a bunch of factorials! (Pardoning the pun.)
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    #13

    May 28, 2008, 04:15 AM
    Wow, finally. Kind of... amazing! :rolleyes:

    But after +7! has the sequence ended? Because... I can't find the other possible numbers to be added to have 7 (following the pattern of 0! + 1! + 6! + 3! + 7! + 4! + 1! + 6! + 7!)
    :confused:
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    May 28, 2008, 05:44 AM
    The sequence ends with 7 terms - as it is based on the symmetry of the sums on either side of the 4th term. So the sequence is either:

    1! + 6! + 3! + 7! + 4! + 1! + 6!
    Or
    0! + 6! + 3! + 7! + 4! + 1! + 7!


    That's it.
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    #15

    May 28, 2008, 06:37 AM
    I have an inherent dislike for non infinite sequences ;)
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    #16

    May 29, 2008, 03:56 AM
    Ah, then I was right when I said that the sequence ends with 7! or like you mentioned 6!
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    #17

    May 29, 2008, 04:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008
    Ah, then i was right when I said that the sequence ends with 7!, or like you mentioned 6!.
    Well yes, it can end with a 6! or a 7! but it doesn't end with 6! + 7!
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    #18

    May 30, 2008, 03:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown008
    Wow, finally. Kinda... amazing! :rolleyes:

    But after +7! , has the sequence ended? cauz... i can't find the other possible numbers to be added to have 7 (following the pattern of 0! + 1! + 6! + 3! + 7! + 4! + 1! + 6! + 7!)
    :confused:
    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my error I made earlier. I've forgotten that 0! Is also 1:o
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    #19

    Jun 21, 2008, 06:20 PM
    I believe they are right it must be 6512

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