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innerJag · Apr 10, 2008, 05:03 PM

If I have a roommate that is potentially very dangerous to himself and others around him what can I do about it besides moving out? Moving out will most likely be the immediate solution but I am very concerned for anyone that he comes in contact with. I'm very worried that this kid will go on a murderous rampage similar to Columbine and West Virginia.

Many red flags are popping up. He's loaded with guns, he's been in foster care all his life, no real family to confide in, has a death wish, very temperamental, has spent $20k for 6 months. To get Kempo instruction, makes serious threats to women that he barely knows, makes others around him feel very uncomfortable, he truly takes pride in the fact that people thinks he's an a--hole, and takes offense to just the slightest thing.

I've recently done something to be on his bad side which is far from anything being serious, not in the slightest but somehow he's got this rage inside of him where he locks himself in his room and has warned me. I've tried texting, calling, and I even tried talking to him in person the other day and the guy was cleaning his shotgun while saying only a few words. Today when I knocked on the door and he didn't answer I heard his case with guns in it click shut or open, not entirely sure. I'm not even sure if it was the gun case or not, but hell, it's freaky hearing it anyway.

So I'm very confused what to do right now. My one roommate says that he's not a threat, that he has goals and is driven to those goals. But that roommate and his girlfriend haven't stayed home since it happened which was 2-3 days ago, this roommate always stays home so he's sending me mixed messages here.

Maybe something won't happen while I'm here and I'm looking to get out of here ASAP. But, what can I do if I truly feel that he's capable of mass murder? Do I just move out and say nothing? What if he's not capable of murder and I report him? What if he's not capable of murder until that one thing that makes him snap, and believe me, this guy snaps over the smallest thing and then threatens you in some vague way "you have no idea who you're talking to" type of threats. What the hell do I do?? :confused:

rodandy12 · Apr 10, 2008, 05:21 PM

You can go to law enforcement. If you feel this guy has a potential to become a mass murder, you need to think about doing this. The cops cannot afford to not take it seriously, especially if you guys are in college some where. Think about it. If they ignore your information for them, they run the risk of getting blamed for another VA Tech.

If you contact them, they will investigate. That means they will get a search warrant and go through his room. They won't be crazy about the guns. They will get into his computer and look for the "tell tale signs"... crazy emails with threats, animal cruelty, etc. If they find any of that stuff, they will insist on his getting therapy and for them that means locking him up until a shrink decides whether he is dangerous or not. They will also see to it he doesn't get into another school for a while.

You have a tough decision to make.

innerJag · Apr 10, 2008, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by rodandy12

You can go to law enforcement. If you feel this guy has a potential to become a mass murder, you need to think about doing this. The cops cannot afford to not take it seriously, especially if you guys are in college some where. Think about it. If they ignore your information for them, they run the risk of getting blamed for another VA Tech.

If you contact them, they will investigate. That means they will get a search warrant and go through his room. They won't be crazy about the guns. They will get into his computer and look for the "tell tale signs"...crazy emails with threats, animal cruelty, etc. If they find any of that stuff, they will insist on his getting therapy and for them that means locking him up until a shrink decides whether he is dangerous or not. They will also see to it he doesn't get into another school for a while.

You have a tough decision to make.

I know, I don't wish anybody in this situation. Also, if I do report him to authorities and they let him go then he'll most likely know who did it, maybe. What would you do?

Fr_Chuck · Apr 10, 2008, 06:09 PM

Ok, if you are that scared and he is that dangerous, why are you even still there, get out, pack up and go,

As to the other, OK, I have more guns than many, I take martial arts, so just that, but then how he acts is the issue. I am not sure what you report expect his threats to women that is really illegal

innerJag · Apr 10, 2008, 06:41 PM

First let me say, I've become very paranoid these past few days and for good reason but, this guy and I talked finally. Things are much better. Way better now that we've talked. Now that this issue has been resolved and I have more clarity over this issue this topic is dead, but, BUT, it does strike a sub topic... What do people do in a situation like this, if or when, something like this happens.

Communication is very important ladies and gentlemen and it's a very complicated thing as well. Some people make communication look easy, says someone out there, not entirely true. Actually! It's quite difficult when you throw in mannerisms, eye contact, tone of voice, and what's being said. It's a difficult skill to master, but that doesn't mean to never communicate. If you have a question, ask! My biggest error was that I made assumptions. I tried asking with no answer for 3-4 days and that's where my other problem comes in, I became paranoid.

I hope this can be a lesson for someone out there. I sure learned a valuable lesson. But, there is still a grey area with this topic. How do we ever know? This guy can still snap and unload on people, even Fr_chuck could be a potential murderer--even with his fists. All it would take is for a person to feel like there's nothing left of course through in a little anger and fear and you got yourself an A-bomb. So what do we do? I don't believe in taking guns away from people that have a clean record. I don't really know what to do. OK, maybe I have a suggestion, give these people attention. Help a potential person. Be a hero for this one potential dangerous person and you might be a hero for 20-30 people.

excon · Apr 11, 2008, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by innerJag

Be a hero for this one potential dangerous person and you might be a hero for 20-30 people.

Hello in:

Hero?? HERO?? Nahhhh. You're just going to be an ordinary snitch...

As it turns out, the guy ISN'T a serial killer. All it took was a little bit of communication to find it out. But, you were about RUIN this guys life with your unfounded accusations.

The bottom line of MY advice is, if you KNOW you're living with a serial killer, call the cops. But, if you just THINK he is, keep your mouth shut, MOVE, and mind your own business!

excon

innerJag · Apr 11, 2008, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello in:

Hero??? HERO??? Nahhhh. You're just gonna be an ordinary snitch...

The bottom line of MY advice is, if you KNOW you're living with a serial killer, call the cops.

excon

I didn't say serial killer I said a potential mass murderer. The difference? One can make a decision to kill in one day and become a prolific murderer by the end of the day and the other, well, you can tell because of the stench coming from underneath his house.

So I ask you, which one will be the easier one to spot? The one guy that just pops, or the one guy who has popped a long time ago?

Ordinary snitch? Consider this, a guy that you have recently pissed off is threatening to kill you and everyone you love and says that he doesn't care about living himself. You know this guy on a personal level and you shared a few beers with him and liked him but all of a sudden you did something wrong in his eyes and all of a sudden your life and family are at stake, what would you do? Be a snitch?

And I didn't snitch on anyone. I was concerned and I asked questions, I asked friends, family, even a website that I recently joined. I could have believed whole-heartedly that this guy was nuts and in the end I would have ruined someone's life. But I didn't and I'm here in this position I'm in now because of my rational decision not to "snitch." We're only as good as the last decision we make.

Thanks for the responses everyone

twinkiedooter · Apr 12, 2008, 01:58 PM

Sometimes when you do go to the police the most they can tell you is that they really can't do anything about your friend until after he kills another person - not before. So you're right not going and telling the police anything at this point. If something does happen and you think your roomie is the culprit, then by all means tell the police about your suspicians.