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Armas__ · Apr 6, 2008, 11:16 AM

I need help identifying the artist and the origin of this painting. I have no ifnormation about it, but it seems to be very old. There are no signs and signatures on the painting as well as on the back side of it.
Any information provided about the country of origin, the artist, the school and time when this painting may have been created, wuold be deeply apreciated.

Here are the links of some photos of the painting, if necessarry I can send more.

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tickle · Apr 6, 2008, 12:04 PM

It would be nearly impossible to do what you ask just by looking at a pic of a painting. It looks like it has been around a long time and abused. I suggest you take it to an art dealer or a good antique store that deals mostly in artwork, period oil paintings, etc. I know you thought you could get a free appraisal on this but I don't know how you could think we could identify without knowing the painter or seeing it first hand. Sorry, but you will have to invest some money in having it identified.

Clough · Apr 7, 2008, 02:11 AM

Okay... This site is about helping others to solve the answers to questions that they might have. As such, I think that it would be best to proceed in that fashion. If someone might need to take the work of art that they have somewhere else in order to receive an answer after all efforts here have been exhausted here, then so be it.

But, we haven't yet exhausted all of the efforts in making use of the resources of this site yet.

What I am seeing here in the first painting, that I have gotten from the links that you have provided, is probably an oil on canvas painting maybe dating from the High Renaissance period. It is very darkened with age and the signature or other identifying mark of the artist may be really hard to see.

The clothing styles; hair, hand and arm dimensions as well as the subject matter in this painting are similar to the other one from the High Renaissance that I have included in this post to the right of yours. Furthermore, rather than the subjects appearing to be flat, as they might be in pre-Renaissance portraiture paintings, they appear to be three-dimensional.

Clough · Apr 7, 2008, 02:27 AM

In the following two, enhanced images of the paintings, I have put a rectangle around the portions of the paintings where there appears to be a signature or identifying mark of some kind. I would suggest that you use a magnifying glass and see if that might be so.

Clough · Apr 7, 2008, 02:45 AM

Because of the rectangular shape of the nail heads that I am seeing, that would be indicative of cut nails rather than modern round ones. You will find these kinds of nails used in frame work and general construction in the 19th century and in the centuries preceding that. Certainly a very old frame.

Clough · Apr 7, 2008, 02:50 AM

How and where did you acquire this painting, please? Knowing those two things would help us to help you better here. We are also unable to view the lower right hand side of the painting. It would be helpful if you would provide some images of it also. It's possible that there might be a signature or identifying mark in that area also that we can't see right now because of the darkening with age.

Thank you!

Armas__ · Apr 9, 2008, 04:32 AM

At first I want to thank you for reply and efforts to help.
This painting I found in my grandparents old house and nobody of my relatives knows how this picture was obtained. I tried to find any signs in your noted places, but I found nothing there. I have put new hi-resolution images online, maybe you'll find anything interesting.
Actually I was not thinking that it's so old and doesn't pay much attention to it, but it really seems to be an old one.
Is there any online picture galleries of High Renaissance period, maybe I can find other similar paintings there?

Clough · Apr 9, 2008, 05:03 AM

Where have you put new images online, please?

Armas__ · Apr 9, 2008, 07:05 AM