[HarajukuGirl]

I heard this at a church but since when are beatles singign about religion? IS this song seriously aproperiate? o.O

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one


Written by John Lennon
Song: Imagine

[JohnSnownw]

It's not the Beatles. That was written by John Lennon during his solo career. Yeah, that's an odd tune to play at church.

[HarajukuGirl]

Oh, well yeah I met Lennon but I have a bad habbit of calling one member of the band The Beatles haha.

It is...
I think some people got offended?

[shygrneyzs]

I would say they would get offended.

[HarajukuGirl]

It's a great song but keep it out of church.

Oh! I am a little outraged..

There is a song about Christians murdering Indians!
You know back with the Spanish Conquestidors?

The song offended me so much... I can't give the link because I might be nanned only because the sogn has a few curses.

So if you are curious

Go on Youtube and search

Christians Murdered Indians


Tell me how it made you feel?
I think its wrong the song was even written, you can't base an opinion on christians frm what happened thousands of years ago.

[shygrneyzs]

I went to YouTube and viewed that video. Did not finish it. I got the point! Maybe all the desendants of the European conquerors and settlers should get on the boat back to Europe. Give it all back. It would not change a thing. I cannot be held responsible for what people did hundreds of years ago.

What is upsetting is that conqueroring for the sake of greed, disguised as christianity. Anyone who does understand Christ knows that Christ never would have sanctioned those actions.

[margarita_momma]

Ummm... John Lennon was a spiritual person but didn't believe in God. The song you are speaking of is called "Imagine". I copied this from one of his websites.

John Lennon (1940-1980) was the composer of what has become an anthem for atheists around the world, "Imagine."  Lennon rejected religion and dogma, but he was not really an atheist - he espoused a sort of vague spirituality.

So no, I wouldn't sing this in church.

[JBeaucaire]

The song is definitely not appropriate. It's pretty New Age, the lyrics implying that peace on earth is not attainable unless you give up:

• religion (no right and wrong)
• geographic boundaries (no answering to governments)
• ownership (no belongings)

It's a pretty brutal song when you analyze it, not something people with any sense of accountability should be singing.

On the other hand, it is a catchy tune. Use some words of your own.

[HarajukuGirl]

I went to YouTube and viewed that video. Did not finish it. I got the point! Maybe all the desendants of the European conquerors and settlers should get on the boat back to Europe. Give it all back. It would not change a thing. I cannot be held responsible for what people did hundreds of years ago.

What is upsetting is that conqueroring for the sake of greed, disguised as christianity. Anyone who does understand Christ knows that Christ never would have sanctioned those actions.

I here you man. I was disgusted when I found out the truth about Christopher columbus.
But that sogn was soooo out of line.
Everyone is entilted ot there own opinion though.


Margarita:
Exactly! Why this women got up and started sining imagine had be baffled xD Like WHOA

Well, JB
It was a while ago when she sang it nut it hit me now.

Haha I never thought of it that wa, when you analyze it.

[NeedKarma]

It's a pretty brutal song when you analyze it, not something people with any sense of accountability should be singing.

Got to disagree with you there. People don't really need a god to have a sense of right and wrong. Jus' saying.

I do agree that the song does not belong in a church but it's not "brutal".

[HarajukuGirl]

True True.

Religion, is such a touchy subject.. Never knew how much it can really impact someone, you know?

[margarita_momma]

I agree with NeedKarma. John Lennon was really big on world peace and happiness. He did grow up in the 60's! The song is about achieving that by getting rid of all the things that cause conflict between people. Religion and Government being two of these things. Its not brutal in any way.

[NeedKarma]

Yup, he was a good man. Which why it's ironic the way he died, he would never have harmed a fly.

[HarajukuGirl]

:'(

I don't know if its okay to get off topic but John Lennon was a good man

[Fr_Chuck]

Would not do it in any of my churches, at times songs that are not christian are used in churches at weddings and other special events.
But then there are many churches where all sorts of things are done.

[Donna Mae]

No, not at all appropriate.

[oneguyinohio]

Who ever played that song in church apparently had a reason. Doesn't mean that they were acurate in their belief about the song...

Perhaps they heard only a portion of it... Whatever... If there intention was to make a joyful noise unto the lord... then it sure as he11 was appropriate.

Not everyone interprets things the same way... I know people that are offended by Amazing Grace!

If it bothered you, say a prayer or a few hail mary's for yourself... that you'll be blessed with the ability not to judge the action of others.

[Greg Quinn]

I think it would be great for church. But, I'm an atheist and absolutely love the message in that song. Its actually in my mp3 player right now. If I were a Christian or Catholic Etc... Probably wouldn't be a good message. ( Imagine no Religion)

[oneguyinohio]

Dare I bring up the number of wars and killings based on one religion against another? Atrocities done in the name of religion... enough said.

Some folks don't like it when a bible get's banned, and sure do argue about freedom of religious expression... as long as it meets their idea of acceptable.

If what that song was about, existed on earth, wouldn't that be like heaven without the need for the current fighting between groups?? There would not be this religion or that religion... with opposing views... It does not say there would be nothing spiritual.

[Greg Quinn]

Dare I bring up the number of wars and killings based on one religion against another? Attrocities done in the name of religion.... enough said.

Some folks don't like it when a bible get's banned, and sure do argue about freedom of religious expression... as long as it meets their idea of acceptable.

If what that song was about, existed on earth, wouldn't that be like heaven without the need for the current fighting between groups??? There would not be this religion or that religion... with opposing views.... It does not say there would be nothing spiritual.

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I agree with much of what you are saying. But if I were a member of an atheist group, and we had a hall that we met at for learning and discussion and someone started playing " Cuom-bi-ahh my Lord--- Cuom-bi-ahh"... I would be a little curious as to why they thought it was appropriate. Remember that it's their house, the people there are not there to debate or as the song says "imagine a world without religion."