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gouewater · Feb 2, 2008, 11:27 AM

I want to find someone who can talk to spirits or see them

N0help4u · Feb 2, 2008, 12:14 PM

The REAL people that Ghost whisper -Mary Ann Winkowski-
And
Medium -Allison DuBois- were made about.

I question if Sylvia Brown really can (at least as much as she claims she does)

peggyhill · Feb 2, 2008, 01:52 PM

I saw this thing about how Sylvia Brown told Sean (I think that's how it was spelled) Hornbeck's parent's that he was dead several years before he was found alive. (the kid who was kidnapped and then found because the guy kidnapped another boy) I don't know if that is true that she told them that or if it is just a rumor. I sometimes watch her when she's on Montel. (yes I watch daytime TV sometimes, I admit it :) )

N0help4u · Feb 2, 2008, 02:24 PM

Yeah that happened with a woman that lived in Pittsburgh too.
Sylvia said she was dead so the family thought she was and years later they found her alive and well living in Florida. I believe she has some ability but not for all the people she deals with. Like listen to what she says. Your loved one is trying to tell you they want you to remember that special anniversary. Easy enough to say and look for real.
I say I believe she does have some ability because for one she has provided some people with clues to how their loved one was killed.

peggyhill · Feb 2, 2008, 05:51 PM

Yeah, that's about what I think too. I think she may be able to do some stuff, but she is mistaken or something sometimes. I think she was probably guessing about the Hornbeck kid. I mean, if someone was asking me if they were going to see their kid that was missing for years, if I had to guess, I would think the odds were against it and say no probably.

Capuchin · Feb 2, 2008, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by gouewater

i want to find someone who can talk to spirits or see them

You won't find anyone, only people claiming to.

On the Sylvia Browne issue, see Stop Sylvia Browne: Home - Main Page for information on all the damage she's caused.

peggyhill · Feb 2, 2008, 06:02 PM

Hey, I think that's the site I read that thing about Sean Hornbeck on. I ran across it when I was looking up about her. I was curious since my friend is obsessed with the whole thing, and I've seen her on TV a time or two.

N0help4u · Feb 2, 2008, 06:06 PM

I take anything skeptics say with a grain of salt because they already have their mind made up and only want to hear THAT outcome. I am skeptic about so called scientific testing because they often go for the outcome they want too.
But I do agree that if she doesn't have a good track record of say resolved crimes then I can't call her for real. But I have heard she has given good tips to police and family that she couldn't have otherwise known. Still don't know her average of having it right vs what she may have just made up or guessed.

Allison DuBois is said to have a good track record with the police in helping them solve unsolved crimes.

Capuchin · Feb 2, 2008, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

I take anything skeptics say with a grain of salt because they already have their mind made up and only want to hear THAT outcome. I am skeptic about so called scientific testing because they often go for the outcome they want too.
But I do agree that if she doesn't have a good track record of say resolved crimes then I can't call her for real. But I have heard she has given good tips to police and family that she couldn't have otherwise known. Still don't know her average of having it right vs what she may have just made up or guessed.

Allison DuBois is said to have a good track record with the police in helping them solve unsolved crimes.

Then I suggest you have a misunderstanding of the scientific method, skepticism, and probably of statistics.

N0help4u · Feb 2, 2008, 06:13 PM

I don't think I do. There are just too many things that science claims they tested and disproved to the advantage of the outcome they wanted.

Capuchin · Feb 2, 2008, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

I don't think I do. There are just too many things that science claims they tested and disproved to the advantage of the outcome they wanted.

Then may I suggest that you are the one who is closed minded to any outcome except the one that they want?

Double blind testing does not give us the comfort of altering results to what we want them to be.

BrownSugarWebster890 · Feb 2, 2008, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by gouewater

i want to find someone who can talk to spirits or see them

You may not believe but my nan can talk to them. Write Back

N0help4u · Feb 2, 2008, 06:21 PM

Capuchin

Then just for one---how do they put all those drugs like Vioxx that kill 500 to 5,000 people out on the market??
And keep them on the market for it to get up to that many people?

Capuchin · Feb 2, 2008, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

Capuchin

Then just for one---how do they put all those drugs like Vioxx that kill 500 to 5,000 people out on the market???
and keep them on the market for it to get up to that many people?

From what I can gather, this was more of an oversight and a misunderstanding of the effects of the drug. Merck were condemned throughout the scientific community about their failure to remove the drug from commerce more quickly.

I don't see any evidence of it being an intentional skewing of results like you claim, though.

Drugs kill people. They're designed not to but they still do. Just like anything in this world.

Capuchin · Feb 2, 2008, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

Yeah that is why I don't trust scientific testing more than about 30% I see what Prozac and many things do then they discredit vitamin E and other things.

I think it's healthy to have some skepticality about things like drug trials, many drugs can affect the body over a long period, and this can't always be tested because of pressure to get the drug out to help people. This says nothing about the scientific method.

However, testing things like psychics is significantly easier.

Just apply a little common sense to what's being tested, how it's being tested etc. You have to take each case on its merits.

Damning the whole scientific method (one of man's greatest inventions) is a bit of a foolhardy decision imo.

Who's discrediting vitamin E?

azkad79 · Feb 16, 2008, 07:34 PM

Nobody can talk to spirits, because they do not exist in this world; however you can talk to djinn, they are invisible, can fly, and marry like human beings. They can do harm to people.

Capuchin · Feb 16, 2008, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by azkad79

Nobody can talk to spirits, because they do not exist in this world; however you can talk to djinn, they are invisible, can fly, and marry like human beings. They can do harm to people.

Haha what.
How do you know they can fly if they are invisible? :P :P

JudyKayTee · Feb 17, 2008, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by azkad79

Nobody can talk to spirits, because they do not exist in this world; however you can talk to djinn, they are invisible, can fly, and marry like human beings. They can do harm to people.

So you would marry one and your husband/wife would be invisible? Not a bad idea!

N0help4u · Feb 17, 2008, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

So you would marry one and your husband/wife would be invisible? Not a bad idea!

Better yet, they would have invisible kids... hmmm wish my mom or dad had been one of them!

azkad79 · Feb 19, 2008, 07:10 PM

Djinn are visible to sertain types of people, in my region there are, for instance, people who talk to djinn, when we are together, i.e. with those people, they say that at that moment they can see some djinn and they talk to them, for us it semms to be something ridiculous, because we cannot see them, it seems as if they are talking to themselves. Djinn exist everywhere, even in your region, you must have heard so far about some people talking to spirits, it is the truth, in actual fact they do not talk to spirits, but deal with djinn. So, such people say that they can see djinn fly.