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    Dec 27, 2007, 04:44 PM
    Marijuana levels in hair folecule
    So lol I just got drug tested for a job I just got today... but they do it with hair. Ive never done a drug test like this. I am not a regular/habitual drug user... but the day before yesterday I did take a puff of marijuana from a blunt. When I say a puff I mean a puff... it was just a roach and one puff was all that was there. Don't ask me why I did it... I don't know it was dumb... but now I'm concerned that it will show up on my drug test. How much do you have to smoke for it to show up? And I'm pretty sure I haven't taken and e puffs of marijuana within a 90 day period besides night before last. Do you think I'm safe?
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    Dec 27, 2007, 05:01 PM
    Hello N:

    No, I don't think you're safe. You say you're not a regular user. Have you smoked even UN regularly during the last 3 months?? If so, you're toast.

    excon
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    Dec 27, 2007, 05:06 PM
    How Does Hair Follicle Drug Testing Work?
    Hair drug testing is actually quite simple and merely requires a sample of hair in order to be completed. Parents who are worried about their teen's use of drugs can collect a strand of hair from their pillow. Employers can request a sample from their employees. Once a hair sample has been collected, it is sealed in an envelope and sent to a participating laboratory for completion. Hair testing is fast and more accurate than other drug test forms.
    For instance, hair sample drug testing can detect drug use for up to 90 days after use. The detection window is much larger in hair drug testing (compare it to few days for urine and saliva based drug testing) because trace amounts of drug chemicals become trapped inside each hair. A simple lab test can detect these trace chemicals making for either a positive or negative test result. Once the results are recorded, you are sent notification of the results. Some companies even provide a phone service where you call in, enter an account number and retrieve the results in that way.

    What Kinds of Drugs Can Hair Drug Testing Detect?
    Hair sample drug testing can detect all of the major types of drugs, including marijuana, opiates, methamphetamines, PCP, ecstasy, and cocaine. Hair follicle drug testing can detect the trace amounts of illicit substances trapped in the cortex of the hair for up to 90 days after use.
    Employee drug testing programs often incorporate hair follicle drug testing into their plans because of the sheer accuracy of these tests. Even though hair testing is more expensive that a urine drug test kit, for example, they can provide a level of accuracy that is nearly ten times that of other testing methods. Likewise, hair follicle drug testing does not involve the embarrassing collection of samples like that of urine or saliva drug tests. In most cases, a few strands of hair is all that is needed to obtain accurate results.
    Parents can also benefit from hair sample drug testing. Hair testing is discrete and confidential. An individual can be tested without their knowledge, making it so parents can know the truth about their teen's drug use first before making accusations. By using hair drug testing in the home, parents can safeguard their teens against drug abuse, and help them quit the abuse should test results come back positive.

    More information about this article can be found at Hair Drug Tests. The article is prepared by Serhat Pala who runs the website TestCountry.com. Some of the information used in this article is taken from :
    All About Hair Drug Testing
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    Dec 27, 2007, 05:43 PM
    Yes, most likely you have smoked enough for it to show up. If you want a clean drug test, it required being free of drug use.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 06:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nlasenby
    So lol i just got drug tested for a job i just got today...but they do it with hair. Ive never done a drug test like this. I am not a regular/habitual drug user...but the day before yesterday i did take a puff of marijuana from a blunt. When i say a puff i mean a puff...it was just a roach and one puff was all that was there. Dont ask me why i did it...i dunno it was dumb...but now im concerned that it will show up on my drug test. How much do u have to smoke for it to show up? And im pretty sure i havent taken n e puffs of marijuana within a 90 day period besides night b 4 last. Do you think im safe?
    It will take approx. 3 sessions for marijuana to show up on a hair test. One hit ain't going to hurt you. If you have been clean the past 90 days, you'll be fine. Besides all that, one hit would take about 10 days to actually show up in your hair and when it does, the amount would be so little it would be below the cutoff limit.

    -Vern (if you need more reassurance head to marijuana.com)
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    Dec 27, 2007, 06:44 PM
    Actually, I have to agree with Vern,

    Your hair grows at a snail's pace. The marijuana smoked has to go through your blood and up into the hair follicle still inside the head, then as the hair shaft grows out the traces of marijuana grow out along with the hair follicle.

    One hit, one night before a test most likely will not show up. If he/she has smoked NOTHING within 90 days than he/she should be safe.

    Drugs and alcohol do not come out in our hair immediately, it takes some time before the portion of the hair shaft (the living part of the hair follicle) to grow out and have traces of substances in the portion of the hair we see (dead hair).
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    Dec 27, 2007, 06:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by J_9
    If he/she has smoked NOTHING within 90 days than he/she should be safe.
    Hello again:

    The key word both J_9 and vern used is "if". I too, agree that if she's smoked nothing but the one hit in the last 90 days, then she has nothing to worry about.

    But, if monkeys flew out of my butt, I could go on TV. Marijuana smokers DON'T smoke ONE HIT every 3 months. Now I suppose some do, but they probably wouldn't be the ones who are required to take a drug test.

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    Dec 27, 2007, 07:00 PM
    Here's a safety measure: shave your head.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 07:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ISneezeFunny
    here's a safety measure: shave your head.
    I bet no one has thought of that before. He alread took the test. Guess what? There is hair on body in other places. No hair=no test = FAIL.

    excon - Who's to say what people will/can do? So what if a guy takes one hit in three months? People are required to take drug tests when they apply for jobs, get tested for probation or court orders... etc, they aren't tested based on how much they smoke. There is no logic in your last sentence.

    J_9 - You can smoke pot and still pass a hair test. Drug tests have cut-off limits, so long as your drug use doesn't put you above the threshold, you'll be fine.

    Reading the OP's post again he said he was pretty sure he hadn't smoked within 90 days besides the last minute hit.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 07:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by vern420
    Who's to say what people will/can do?
    Hello vern:

    Me.

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    Dec 27, 2007, 07:42 PM
    :cool:

    excon...

    Perhaps your missing my point. People who are tested for drugs have used different kinds, amounts... etc. Them being tested (in this case and in most employment tests) has nothing to do with how much the user has used in the past. That's why I completely disagree with your last sentence in that one post over there.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 07:50 PM
    Also we are forgetting that a person taking that one "hit" is normally sitting in a room next to people and breathing in the second hand smoke, which will also effect the amount in the system, If they sat in a room of people smoking pot every week, they would most likely test positive also.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 08:05 PM
    Fr_Chuck...

    You should do some research. First of all, 95-100% of the THC is absorbed into the lungs after the first 3-5 seconds after inhaling. Second of all, if there was any THC exhaled the concentration of THC in the air would be so low that the person not smoking would inhale so little THC you could measure it... at least with a drug test. 3rd... people have tried to fail from second hand smoke. It can't be done. Learn something new everyday huh? :cool:
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    Dec 27, 2007, 08:09 PM
    Nope, years of police work and doing real life tests. As a under cover officer, not doing any myself, I know first hand it will effect.
    You can get very high just being in the room.

    And if you want a real high, stand arouind when they burn the bales of pot.

    Sorry but have done first hand research being involved with it,

    Real life tells me what really happens,
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    Dec 27, 2007, 08:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    Also we are forgetting that a person taking that one "hit" is normally sitting in a room next to people and breathing in the second hand smoke, which will also effect the amount in the system, If they sat in a room of people smoking pot every week, they would most likely test positive also.
    Chuck, second hand smoke is not strong enough to accumulate in the lungs in a high enough concentration to be detectable in the hair follicles. This is a common myth, but it is just not so.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 08:15 PM
    Did someone tell you they didn't smoke and that they were 'just around it'? Burning pales of pot is completely different than second hand smoke. Drug tests have cut-off limits so you don't fail if you have only a tiny amount of metabolites present.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 08:17 PM
    Ok, won't argue but I have been there, seen it, did drug tests on people, and I know they will fail the test police give. We worked with undercover agents all the time in my "past life" who also had to deal with it.

    But then you have your facts and I have my experience, not myth, seen it personally first hand.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 08:22 PM
    And I see it in the hospital. Chuck, drug addicts lie, you know that, I know that. Now, unless you tested positive by breathing second hand smoke only, I may consider that, but if someone told you that they were only exposed, I tend to disagree.

    Much like the woman who I helped deliver recently who told me that she never smoked and was only exposed to second hand smoke. However, the infant's meconium tested positive for cannibus (sp) 3 days after birth. There is no way that the concentrations of THC are high enough for a positive result by second hand smoke only. As there is no way that one can take one or two hits on Tuesday and test positive on Wednesday with a follicle test.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 08:24 PM
    @ vern420:

    The "shaving your head" part... was a joke. It was... obviously... a joke. Take... a joke.
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    Dec 27, 2007, 08:32 PM
    Don't know J9 I tested positive myself 3 times, one from the burning, which I will say was a lot about since I was suppose to be wearing breathing equpment. Myself and another person got in a lot of trouble over that one.

    But because of random testing, after a long undercover time, yes tested positive myself. But this was according to them, not uncommom on undercover officers at the time.
    I will say joints were a lot larger, during the 70's and early 80's than those sorry ones I see being smoked now adays, I lived in the drug culture for almost 5 years, buying and selling and dealing with all levels of the drug people.

    But again, don't need to argue, But I will assume excon will be glad to sign up for the testing.

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