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    Oct 23, 2007, 12:25 PM
    The Delicious Charbroiled Smell of Laboratory Meat
    :eek: The Delicious Charbroiled Smell of Laboratory Meat
    By Jonathan Kolber
    October 23, 2007


    I’ll admit it. I have a weakness for the delicious smell of charcoal-broiled meat. Even during a two-year stint as a vegetarian, that desire never went away.

    Those who refrain from eating meat for ethical or health reasons will soon have an interesting alternative.

    AlterNet reports, with considerable fanfare and some hyperbole, that Dutch scientists are successfully growing "cultured meat" in laboratories. The current price is several thousand dollars per pound — out of reach of all but the most wealthy of epicures.

    Their aim is to bring it down to several dollars per pound, where it will be cost competitive with meat that's grown the old-fashioned way. Estimates are that this could happen within five years.

    While the article uses words such as "horrifying" to describe this possibility, it also does a reasonably accurate job of describing the science and implications.

    Essentially, certain stem cells that can become muscle cells are placed on "scaffolding." As they grow on this scaffolding, they assume a certain shape. They are immersed in a fluid that gives them the same nutrients blood would provide if the cells were living inside a body.

    An electrical current or mechanical stretching is used to simulate exercise. Voilà! You have ready-to-eat meat.

    NASA funded tests in pursuit of a better source of protein for astronauts. It engaged Touro College biologists Morris Benjaminson and James Gilchriest to grow goldfish. (Why this was selected as opposed to say, salmon, was never explained.)
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    Oct 23, 2007, 12:29 PM
    Sounds like a good idea to me! If I was doing that I'd probably stick in a couple of extra plasmids encoding vitamins and other nutrients required in the human diet. Imagine that, a burger with 100% RDA of vit C! I have no idea the feasibility of this idea but I bet you could get some extra goodies in.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 12:36 PM
    Soy burgers have been available for years.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 12:36 PM
    That is not OK! What ever happened to the dang cow?
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    Oct 23, 2007, 12:39 PM
    I just lost my appetite.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 12:42 PM
    I'll just eat the agar. Heck, when you plop it out of the petri dish, it's kind of shaped like a burger patti.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 12:45 PM
    Soy burger ain't quiet the same taste wize as real protein. As soon as this product is available in chicken form and cheaply I'm there. Ethically I hate most modern farming practices but I just can't seem to give up meat... Yes I know I'm weak.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 12:45 PM
    Whatever suits you Mag...
    But I like vegitarian meals more than anything... BUT if I want a good steak or something... COW will be my choice...
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    Oct 23, 2007, 01:14 PM
    I don't think it will catch on; people are all worried about "genetically modified foods" as it is and insist organic is the way to go and is much healthier. Meat grown in a lab? No way, people will start on about "chemicals" and "additives" and whatnot and say it causes cancer. Me? I'd give it a taste. OOOH! If we grow steaks instead of cows, we can get rid of all the cow farts contributing to global warming!! I think I just solved the crisis! :)
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    Oct 23, 2007, 01:30 PM
    That is so freaking cool, so in theory they could build the perfect steak, you could actually decide the size and thickness of your perfect steak

    OR get a fillet mignon (which are generally quite small) made into a steak the size of your plate.

    Oh yes my friends we are on the cusp of something here! You'll see, you'll all see. Until then ill continue eating 3 animals for every 1 that a vegetarian refuses to eat.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 01:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Lowtax4eva
    That is so freaking cool, so in theory they could build the perfect steak, you could actually decide the size and thickness of your perfect steak

    OR get a fillet mignon (which are generally quite small) made into a steak the size of your plate.

    Oh yes my friends we are on the cusp of something here! You'll see, you'll all see. Until then ill continue eating 3 animals for every 1 that a vegetarian refuses to eat.
    LMAO! If you can afford it... go ahead...
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    Oct 23, 2007, 01:32 PM
    Vegetarians are pretty tasty too.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 01:48 PM
    Ugh, yes I suppose they might be, I was arguing with someone in the PETA chatrooms earlier about things.

    Apparently some 26 million animals are killed "accidentally" by harvesting equipment each year and someone at PETA was telling me that it's accidental so it's less offensive than people eating meat by choice... whatever.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 02:48 PM
    I don't see why peta wants to make another animal go extinct. If we don't raise cows for meat and leather, they would die you don't see any wild cows. So I will continue to eat meat and wear leather for the sake of the cows.

    Actually as long as it has the taste and texture of regular meat, I'd eat it.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 03:07 PM
    Soylent Green
    YouTube - Soylent Green
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    Oct 23, 2007, 05:55 PM
    Very Good Cap'n! Now I'll tell you the secret of Soylent Green. Are you ready? OK. After the secret ingrediant of Soylent green was discovered, they changed the name. Here is the newest incarnation of Soylent Green:
    1956 Armour Treet Canned Meat Vintage Print Ad
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    Oct 23, 2007, 06:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by magprob
    Very Good Cap'n! Now I'll tell you the secret of Soylent Green. Are you ready? OK. After the secret ingrediant of Soylent green was discovered, they changed the name. Here is the newest incarnation of Soylent Green:
    1956 Armour Treet Canned Meat Vintage Print Ad
    I KNEW you'd do that!! Hehehe The sick, twisted, demented creature we have come to love!!
    Yes, you can change the name on the lable, but the contents remain the same. Hehehe
    I did notice a slight increase in retail pricing... must be due to global warming reflecting the increasing costs of shelf space. Hmm... too bad!
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    Oct 23, 2007, 06:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainRich
    I KNEW you'd do that!!! hehehe The sick, twisted, demented creature we have come to love!!!
    Yes, you can change the name on the lable, but the contents remain the same. hehehe
    I did notice a slight increase in retail pricing.... must be due to global warming reflecting the increasing costs of shelf space. Hmm... too bad!!
    Yes, it is in effect just a sign of the times.
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    Oct 23, 2007, 07:11 PM
    Lab Meat Lickers!!
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    Oct 23, 2007, 07:15 PM
    START! You shouldn't lick lab meat!

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