[firmbeliever]

Are there archeological evidences and/or historical evidences

Of a Pharaoh that was drowned?

A huge flood (like the story of Noah)?

Of a whole/city/nation that was drowned?

Thanks all:)

[RickJ]

Huge flood, yes. The story of the break between the Mediterranean and Black Sea - and the peoples of that time and area - is a fascinating one.

Ian Wilson is an author of several fantastic works - one of which is Before the Flood. A great work in my opinion. Here's an over view of it: Before the Flood by Ian Wilson, Published by Orion - The Northern Rivers Echo Newspaper, Lismore

[Capuchin]

See Deluge (mythology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for a summary of the flood myths that are pervasive through many human cultures.

And see Deluge (prehistoric) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for a summary of the events that may have been the basis for the myths.

[firmbeliever]

Thank you RickJ and Capuchin for the links, will look then up.

And capuchin, I do not think a flood during the time of Noah is a myth, I believe it happened with or without archeological evidence. As I like history and archeology I just like to know for informations sake.

I have looked into the vesuvius and mount Etna eruptions too, although this may not be the same as the one mentioned in the Quran, it just shows the same thing, that people did not even have time to move from their positions when the disaster struck.

[RickJ]

I am Christian. I believe it is possible that a flood covered the earth but I think the Bible story (as well as the others that are so similar) refer to "their" world that got flooded - likely not the entire planet.

If there was enough water on the planet to cover the highest mountains (Everest is nearly 7 miles high) the evidence would be abundant.

[Capuchin]

"Myth: A story that a particular culture believes to be true and that uses the supernatural to interpret natural events and to explain the nature of the universe and humanity."

You don't think that that accurately describes the Great flood in Genesis? I think it describes it perfectly.

[NeedKarma]

And capuchin, I do not think a flood during the time of Noah is a myth, I believe it happened with or without archeological evidence.

That's called 'faith'.

[firmbeliever]

That's called 'faith'.

I agree it is faith,
Isn't that what makes a scientists relentlessly search for answer, his faith that there are answers,proofs etc.

Hence it is my faith that moves me into trying to understand the history and sciences as much as I can.This in turn helps my faith and belief to be stronger as I believe that science(when the truth is uncovered) cannot disprove what my belief teaches.

Thanks all...

[ScottGem]

I too have read evidence, though I can't recall where, that there was a great flood. Also the fact that several religions include this myth, its important.

There has also been evidence of chariots found in the middle of the Red Sea bed.

[firmbeliever]

I too have read evidence, though I can't recall where, that there was a great flood. Also the fact that several religions include this myth, its important.

There has also been evidence of chariots found in the middle of the Red Sea bed.

I agree,all the main religions talking about the same thing, there must be something there(for the sceptics).
Where can I get more info on this Red Sea bed finding?

Thanks:)

[RickJ]

Note: many scholars (Jewish, Christian and otherwise) agree that what is translated [English] as "red sea" in scripture most likely refers to the "reed sea" which is not the Red sea.

From what I have read (enough to put your average joe to sleep) of flood evidence and the peoples of that time, the Black Sea is where we should focus our attention.

Presuming chariots in the bed of some Sea refers to the parting of a body of water that gained the Israelites their freedom, I think you'll find much to read about searching (google or books) about the "Reed Sea" rather than the "Red Sea".

[firmbeliever]

Note: many scholars (Jewish, Christian and otherwise) agree that what is translated [English] as "red sea" in scripture most likely refers to the "reed sea" which is not the Red sea.

From what I have read (enough to put your average joe to sleep) of flood evidence and the peoples of that time, the Black Sea is where we should focus our attention.

Presuming chariots in the bed of some Sea refers to the parting of a body of water that gained the Israelites their freedom, I think you'll find much to read about searching (google or books) about the "Reed Sea" rather than the "Red Sea".

Thanks for the info,
But I couldn't find much on the Reed sea, if you could please recommend a link..

Thanks:)

[Capuchin]

The Black sea, the flood is covered as the most recent one in the wikipedia article I linked for you :)

[firmbeliever]

The Black sea, the flood is covered as the most recent one in the wikipedia article i linked for you :)

Oh so the Reed sea is the same as the black sea, now I see light :)

I was wondering why I had never heard of a Reed sea before..

Thanks

[RickJ]

No, the Black Sea is not the same as the Reed Sea. I'll do a bit of research and post some links.

[Capuchin]

Eeek!

[RickJ]

Here are some links that bring you up to speed a bit on the Red Sea vs. Reed Sea debate:

The Red Sea or the Reed Sea? > The Good News : May/June 1997

Reed Sea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[b-hebrew] Yam Suph "Reed" Sea ?

Did the Israelites actually pass through the Red Sea on their way out of Egypt? (this one argues against the "reed sea")

B Red Sea Crossing