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    Aug 21, 2007, 10:27 AM
    Bidding Chart or Price Chart
    I need an example of a bidding chart or price chart... to estimate the a price when I bid on a place to clean. I'm in the office cleaning business.
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    Aug 25, 2007, 01:22 PM
    If I were to format one, I would use a program like Microsoft Excel so that everything looks very neat and professional. I would then divide the sheet into sections dealing with the various rooms in the office that would need to be cleaned. I would decide if I am going to charge by the hour or square foot for the area to be cleaned.

    To be competitive with others, I would just call other similar cleaning type people and ask how they figure their rates and what they would charge to clean a certain type of area if they were given a certain amount of time to clean it deeply or routinely.

    There are also some words and ideas on the following sites that may be of help to you to use in putting together a bidding sheet.

    https://www.mrscleannw.com/online-estimate-quote.html

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    Sep 5, 2007, 08:47 PM
    I need an example of a bidding sheet. I am going to bid on a commercial building.

    Thanks,

    Shelley
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    Sep 18, 2007, 09:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by shelleyb25
    I need an example of a bidding sheet. I am going to bid on a commercial building.

    Thanks,

    Shelley
    This post is a little old, however;

    A. What exactly are you looking for? A "sheet" that you will use "in house" to help you figure your pricing?

    B. Or, are looking for something more elaborate that you may want to show your prospects?


    A.) What Clough offered you was good for internal use. I would suggest that you always figure your pricing from three different standpoints:

    1. Actually figure the total hour/s necessary to do the job on a daily basis. Then; take that daily amount times the number of days per week. Take that figure times (x) 52 weeks to arrive at an annual figure. Then divide that annual figure by 12 months to arrive at your average monthly price.(This way allows you to have a consistent monthly price as several months vary in the number of business days.

    2. Figure the total "CLEANABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE" (Important because; you may have measured the whole building or they may have given you the square footage for it. But you will not actually be cleaning all of the sq. ft; boiler rooms, closets, stairwells/landings, unused offices, etc.) Let your competitors use the total sq. ft. to price it up. You will have the advantage in the price. By doing it this way you will get paid for what you actually do AND as it usually is (not happy with price selling only-however);have a leg up on your competitors.

    3. If indeed you are actually looking for a "sheet" to help you price. Then that is a different matter. On a monthly basis; add your total labor costs, your overhead (insurance, light bill, gasoline, office supplies, rent, plus, plus, plus, etc), cleaning supplies, equipment supplies, supervision costs, etc. Also add up your monthly administration costs (to do payroll, other insurance items, salary of office personnel, etc. Then figure the total % of profit (not an ugly word). Some take this percentage of the labor only, I use a slightly lower % and take it times the total figure so far--prior to the profit.

    B.) If you are looking for something to give to your prospect possibly in your proposal. I would hesitate in doing this. Figures such as your profit, labor, etc are confidential and showing them could raise a problem in closing the deal.

    I suggest that you may give them some information; for example, the % of the job that is labor. In mine if asked; I am at about 45-55% that is labor (of the monthly price). Anything else that they may ask you for I wouldn't give to them.

    If they are asking these types of in depth questions it usually tells me that they will very hard to please in any service that you provide.

    Stringer
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    Sep 18, 2007, 09:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Stringer
    This post is a little old, however;

    A. What exactly are you looking for? A "sheet" that you will use "in house" to help you figure your pricing?

    B. Or, are looking for something more elaborate that you may want to show your prospects?


    A.) What Clough offered you was good for internal use. I would suggest that you always figure your pricing from three different standpoints:

    1. Actually figure the total hour/s necessary to do the job on a daily basis. Then; take that daily amount times the number of days per week. Take that figure times (x) 52 weeks to arrive at an annual figure. Then divide that annual figure by 12 months to arrive at your average monthly price.(This way allows you to have a consistent monthly price as several months vary in the number of business days.

    2. Figure the total "CLEANABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE" (Important because; you may have measured the whole building or they may have given you the square footage for it. But you will not actually be cleaning all of the sq. ft; boiler rooms, closets, stairwells/landings, unused offices, etc.) Let your competitors use the total sq. ft. to price it up. You will have the advantage in the price. By doing it this way you will get paid for what you actually do AND as it usually is (not happy with price selling only-however);have a leg up on your competitors.

    3. If indeed you are actually looking for a "sheet" to help you price. Then that is a different matter. On a monthly basis; add your total labor costs, your overhead (insurance, light bill, gasoline, office supplies, rent, plus, plus, plus, etc), cleaning supplies, equipment supplies, supervision costs, etc. Also add up your monthly administration costs (to do payroll, other insurance items, salary of office personnel, etc. Then figure the total % of profit (not an ugly word). Some take this percentage of the labor only, I use a slightly lower % and take it times the total figure so far--prior to the profit.

    B.) If you are looking for something to give to your prospect possibly in your proposal. I would hesitate in doing this. Figures such as your profit, labor, etc are confidential and showing them could raise a problem in closing the deal.

    I suggest that you may give them some information; for example, the % of the job that is labor. In mine if asked; I am at about 45-55% that is labor (of the monthly price). Anything else that they may ask you for I wouldn't give to them.

    If they are asking these types of in depth questions it usually tells me that they will very hard to please in any service that you provide.

    Stringer

    Sorry, the third way that effects pricing is your competitive situation. If you are going to survive then you will need to be competitive. Go to trade shows, talk with competitors, don't be afraid to check with your prospects (believe it or not; when I asked them what they are paying now-most will tell me.) That doesn't always mean that that price is good-sometimes they lie, or that could be the reason the present contractor is losing the job-maybe his price wasn't enough to do the job. And always remember you have to be happy with your price, there is nothing worst than taking a job that has very little profit and you have to live with for a year to 3 years. You will not be happy!

    Stringer

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