Originally Posted by
jlk1331
I'm 41 years old. When I was about 22 in 1986 I bought a car from a dishonest salesman. When I realised my mistake I refused to pay another dime on the payments and purposely allowed the car to be reposessed. This debt was on my credit report for 10 years. After silence for approx 20 years I get a call from a debt collector for 5,000 dollars (the balance after sale of the car). My question is: Is this considered a new debt? Can this affect my credit for a second time? Is there time limitations on old debt? What are my options? Please help me..........!!
IMPORTANT!! Do not speak to them on the phone, everything is writing only..
I hereby demand that the verification of this alleged account. Provide the original contract certified with all the proper signatures of the alleged debtor.
This is my request for verification of this alleged account.
Black’s Law Dictionary defines “Verification” as follows:
“Confirmation of correctness, truth, or authenticity, by affidavit, oath or deposition. Affidavit of truth of matter stated and object of verification is to assure good faith in averments or statements of party. . .” (emphasis added)
1. furnish a copy of the original contract, and state under penalty of perjury that your client is the bona fide party in interest of the contract and will produce the original for my own and a judge's inspection should there be a trial to contest these matters
2.- produce the account and general ledger statement showing the full accounting of the alleged obligation that you are now attempting to collect
3.- identify by name and address all persons, corporations associations or any other parties having an interest in legal proceedings regarding the alleged debt
4.- Verify, under penalty of perjury, that as a debt collector, you have not purchased evidence of debt and are proceeding with collection activities in the name of the original contracting party
5.- verify under penalty of perjury that you know and understand that certain clauses in a contract of adhesion are unenforceable unless the party to whom the contract is extended could have rejected the clause without impunity
6.- provide verification from the stated creditor that you are authorized to act for them.
7.- verify that you know and understand that contacting me again after receipt of this notice without providing procedurally proper validation of the alleged debt constitutes the use of interstate communications in a scheme of fraud by advancing a writing that you know is false with the intention that others rely on the written communication to the detriment of Your Name here
8.Is this alleged debt beyond the Statute of Limitations (y/n)
§ 809. Validation of debts [15 USC 1692g]
a statement that if the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, the debt collector will obtain verification of the debt or a copy of a judgment against the consumer and a copy of such verification or judgment will be mailed to the consumer by the debt collector; and
a statement that, upon the consumer's written request within the thirty-day period, the debt collector will provide the consumer with the name and address of the original creditor, if different from the current creditor
If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period described in subsection (a) that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor, the debt collector shall cease collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof, until the debt collector obtains verification of the debt or any copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector.
As, stated the alleged account listed above is in dispute and any information obtained will be used to enforce the:
§ 813. Civil liability [15 USC 1692k]
a) Except as otherwise provided by this section, any debt collector who fails to comply with any provision of this title with respect to any person is liable to such person in an amount equal to the sum of --
(1) any actual damage sustained by such person as a result of such failure;
(2) (A) in the case of any action by an individual, such additional damages as the court may allow, but not exceeding $1,000; or
(B) in the case of a class action, (I) such amount for each named plaintiff as could be recovered under subparagraph (A), and (ii) such amount as the court may allow for all other class members, without regard to a minimum individual recovery, not to exceed the lesser of $500,000 or 1 per centum of the net worth of the debt collector; and
(3) in the case of any successful action to enforce the foregoing liability, the costs of the action, together with a reasonable attorney's fee as determined by the court. On a finding by the court that an action under this section was brought in bad faith and for the purpose of harassment, the court may award to the defendant attorney's fees reasonable in relation to the work expended and costs.
This letter is to obtain verification of the alleged debt, If you do not notify me with verification within 30 days of this letter, as to the validity of the alleged debt, I, hereby consider and noted that the alleged debt is Fraudulent and void. “Qui jure suo utitur, nemini facit injuries”
This Affidavit and all attached documents have been made a part of the Public Record and will be used for evidence in administrative and judicial proceeding at law, or equity regarding this case. All of these documents must be maintained in Claimant’s administrative file.
I affirm under the penalty of perjury under the laws of the united state of America that the foregoing is true and correct to the best of my belief and informed knowledge, And Further deponent said not.
All reserved explicitly without reservation or prejudice UCC 1-103, 1-105 and 1-308
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Citizen Principal, By Special Appearance, Propia Persona proceeding Sui Juris.