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    Jun 18, 2007, 10:22 AM
    An ironic looting
    Over the weekend it was reported that Yassar Arafat's home was looted and one of the things that walked was his Nobel Peace Prize medal .

    Looters raid Arafat's home, steal his Nobel Peace Prize | Jerusalem Post


    Perhaps it was ironic itself that a
    "peace Prize" named for a manufacturer of explosives was awarded to one who took their application to a new level of evil . But now the torch has now been passed to a new Frankenstein who has turned on it's creator.

    In a few short weeks or days we will be reading about the human catastrophe in Gaza and of our responsibility to rush aid there . The ruins of the multi-million dollar greenhouse complex that was looted and gutted after the Israeli withdrawal stand as a monument to the futility of such an attempt . Looters strip Gaza greenhouses - Mideast/N. Africa - MSNBC.com
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    Jun 18, 2007, 11:16 AM
    I hand't heard about that. G-d is an iron... very ironic.

    In a few short weeks or days we will be reading about the human catastrophe in Gaza and of our responsibility to rush aid there .
    No, in a few weeks we'll be hearing how all of it is Israel's fault, and how Israel allowed the slaughter to take place and is therefore guilty of genocide. We'll hear about how Israel should be wiped off the map, and the poor Palestinians who can't seem to stop shooting each other long enough to actually govern themselves should be granted statehood where Israel currently stands. I predict that the UN will file more resolutions against Israel, this time for its indifference toward the plight of the peaceful Palestinians.

    (By the way, doesn't a "resolution" require that one be "resolute" about something. When was the last time that the UN was resolute about anything.)

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    Jun 18, 2007, 11:41 AM
    [quoteI predict that the UN will file more resolutions against Israel, this time for its indifference toward the plight of the peaceful Palestinians. [/quote]

    Already happening... The United Nations Human Rights Council is about to adopt a “reform package” that drops Cuba and Belarus from a blacklist and places Israel under permanent indictment.View From Geneva - UN Watch
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    Jun 18, 2007, 04:33 PM
    The United Nations Human Rights Council is about to adopt a “reform package” that drops Cuba and Belarus from a blacklist and places Israel under permanent indictment.
    You have GOT to be kidding me. Yeah, that's what I call reforming its predecessor, the Commission on Human Rights. It's hard to believe the UN is getting even more pathetic... and yet John Bolton was the problem. Next thing you know the Human Rights Council will be getting a Nobel...
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    Jun 19, 2007, 08:10 AM
    Victor Davis Hanson has a nice article published today at Real Clear Politics that ties in a number of the recent conversations on this board together .The pertinent part to this posting I will quote here but the whole article should be read .

    "The Palestinian people will never forgive the Hamas gangs for looting the home of the Palestinian people's great leader, Yasser Arafat," Palestinian authority spokesman Abdel Rahman recently exclaimed. "This crime will remain a stain of disgrace on the forehead of Hamas and its despicable gangs."

    For years Fatah and Palestinian authority-sanctioned terrorists themselves have undermined civil society by torturing, murdering, and bombing innocents. It was accepted by them that the laws of civilization--due process, exemption of civilians from attacks, and the rule of law--did not apply to Yasser Arafat's government that was as corrupt as it was savage. If you ever were in need of dialysis after you blew up the local clinic and shot the doctors, you could always cross the border to the nearby Zionist entity for treatment.

    But suddenly such Fatah terrorists are being out-terrorized by an even more barbaric Hamas, whose thugs have even looted the Nobel Peace Prize given Arafat. What barbarians! Where is the law?

    So now the outgunned Fatah gangsters are suddenly crying about the uncivilized evils of looting, gangs, and random killings. Just as Thucydides warned about insurrectionists destroying civil society, so Fatah once erased civilization's protocols on the presumption that no one else would dare do to them what they routinely did to others. How bizarre that Arafat's followers of all people are reduced to appealing to international norms of decency and legality to avoid their utter destruction in Gaza by Hamas.
    RealClearPolitics - Articles - Hypocrisy That Undermines Civilization
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    Jun 19, 2007, 08:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55
    How bizarre that Arafat's followers of all people are reduced to appealing to international norms of decency and legality to avoid their utter destruction in Gaza by Hamas.
    Now THAT's ironic. It's about time someone starts saying what needs to be said as Hansen has done.

    Double standards depend on demanding from United States and Europe a sort of impossible perfection. When such utopianism is not--and never can be--met, cheap accusations of racism, colonialism, and imperialism follow. Such posturing is intended to con the West into feeling guilty, and, with such self-loathing, granting political concessions, relaxing immigration, or handing over more foreign aid. Left unsaid is that such critics of the West will always ignore their own hypocrisy, and, when convenient, destroy civilized norms while expecting someone else to restore them when needed.

    What, then, to do? Stop feeling guilty, apologizing, and trying to rationalize barbarity. Instead insist on the same uniform standards of humane behavior from our critics that they now demand from us.
    What's even sadder about this is how many of those critics call themselves Americans.
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    Jun 19, 2007, 06:43 PM
    That's how Islam rolls.

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