[Capuchin]

deist, can you explain why you think there cannot be 2 infinite gods?

[deist]

deist, can you explain why you think there cannot be 2 infinite gods?

It just occurs to me, & seems logical, that more than one infinite being would not really be infinite. If two beings existed & both claimed to be supreme, that wouldn't make sense, as supreme means there is none as high or higher.

[magprob]

All are but parts of one stupendous whole, Whose body Nature is, and God the soul.

[Capuchin]

It just occurs to me, & seems logical, that more than one infinite being would not really be infinite. If two beings existed & both claimed to be supreme, that wouldn't make sense, as supreme means there is none as high or higher.

Well you didn't say supreme -_-

[StuMegu]

thats a funny way of saying it.:).

I believe God was never made (out of nothing or out of anything),
God always existed and always will, without a beginning and an end.

And that is the only consistency, that I believe...

If you're not prepared to answer the same question, lets just say that the computer has always existed - and always will in response to your original question.

Gee, it's easy to avoid difficult questions isn't it!

WHO MADE GOD?? - No religious person can answer this one but it's a reasonable question.

WHY MAKE A GOD?

Why do gods enjoy making all the people trying to be good feel guilty, whilst ignoring the bad deeds of people who don't care?

[firmbeliever]

If you're not prepared to answer the same question, lets just say that the computer has always existed - and always will in response to your original question.

Gee, it's easy to avoid difficult questions isn't it!

WHO MADE GOD??? - No religious person can answer this one but it's a reasonable question.

WHY MAKE A GOD??

Why do gods enjoy making all the people trying to be good feel guilty, whilst ignoring the bad deeds of people who don't care?

:D It is easy to avoid difficult questions,but other than that I try to stay away from things I may not know about:)

I wonder why God has to be made by someone or something?He is not human nor is He animal or half human or half animal or half plant for that matter.
He is unique from any of His creations. As the Creator, He has no characteristics similar to His creations, so He is not born nor has he begotten.He does not die.If He had to have a birth and a death, I would think that would make Him cease to be God.

And God does not have to be made.He always existed, it is just that humans and jinns are forgetting His existence.All other created beings acknowledge and bow down to His will.

And about ignoring the bad deeds of people, some people are left to their own vices until they die when everyone will be judged on their deeds good or bad and each will have their due.

That I believe is the truth, even if no one accepts or believes it.

[firmbeliever]

there is no god when you soell god backwards it spells dog think about it

:) Think about what?
That words can be spelled backwards?

God is only a word in English...
What about all the other languages?:)

[talaniman]

Why do gods enjoy making all the people trying to be good feel guilty, whilst ignoring the bad deeds of people who don't care?

That's so much crap, as there is always a price to pay for whatever you do!! You may not pay the price now, but you will. You may not get the blessings now, BUT YOU WILL!!

[firmbeliever]

Thats so much crap, as there is always a price to pay for whatever you do!!! You may not pay the price now, but you will. You may not get the blessings now, BUT YOU WILL!!!

Talaniman,
That was so well said.

Price has to be paid now or later, but there is no avoiding it forever.
Blessings will also be given now or later,and there's no avoiding that either:)

[StuMegu]

Who made God? - Ignorance, God is used to explain things we don't understand yet.

Why make God? - to make other people do your will. How else do you ask a man to give his life for something he otherwise wouldn't care about. You run around crying holy war - you have to do it for God or you won't go to heaven. Religion is a way of manipulating people into doing something you couldn't normally convince them to do. It's also used as a pacifier to comfort people when tragedy strikes. It makes people feel better to know that that person has gone to heaven etc.

Knowledge will be the end of religion eventually. This is clear. Do you still fear that god is angry with you when there is a thunder storm - think about it. Do you feel like you have done wrong and that is the reason for the storm like people used to? Or do you watch the weather forecast and know that the storm will be over in the morning - whether you have been bad or good.

Thanks for the chat guys, I'm sure we'll never agree on this stuff but I wish you all a nice life anyway.

[firmbeliever]

Who made God? - Ignorance, God is used to explain things we don't understand yet.

Why make God? - to make other people do your will. How else do you ask a man to give his life for something he otherwise wouldn't care about. You run around crying holy war - you have to do it for God or you won't go to heaven. Religion is a way of manipulating people into doing something you couldn't normally convince them to do. It's also used as a pacifier to comfort people when tragedy strikes. It makes people feel better to know that that person has gone to heaven etc.

Knowledge will be the end of religion eventually. This is clear. Do you still fear that god is angry with you when there is a thunder storm - think about it. Do you feel like you have done wrong and that is the reason for the storm like people used to? Or do you watch the weather forecast and know that the storm will be over in the morning - whether you have been bad or good.

Thanks for the chat guys, I'm sure we'll never agree on this stuff but I wish you all a nice life anyway.

I agree to disagree.:)
Knowledge does not necessarily have to end religion,for me it strengthens mine.

[Wangdoodle]

If you're not prepared to answer the same question, lets just say that the computer has always existed - and always will in response to your original question.

Gee, it's easy to avoid difficult questions isn't it!

WHO MADE GOD??? - No religious person can answer this one but it's a reasonable question.

WHY MAKE A GOD??

Why do gods enjoy making all the people trying to be good feel guilty, whilst ignoring the bad deeds of people who don't care?

God was not made. He simply Is. If there were ever a time when nothing existed then there would be nothing today. Something does not come from nothing. Nothing plus nothing equals nothing. Yet, here we are. So, I think that something must be uncreated, something that has always existed. To me, that something is God. God does not have a beginning, so He does not have a cause.

[Capuchin]

God was not made. He simply Is. If there were ever a time when nothing existed then there would be nothing today. Something does not come from nothing. Nothing plus nothing equals nothing. Yet, here we are. So, I think that something must be uncreated, something that has always existed. To me, that something is God. God does not have a beginning, so He does not have a cause.

Why do you think that the universe cannot be uncreated?

[StuMegu]

God was not made. He simply Is. If there were ever a time when nothing existed then there would be nothing today. Something does not come from nothing. Nothing plus nothing equals nothing. Yet, here we are. So, I think that something must be uncreated, something that has always existed. To me, that something is God. God does not have a beginning, so He does not have a cause.

Classic example of ignorance creating God. Because we don't know exactly how the universe(s) came about we therefore assume God did it! The fact that we think something does not come from nothing has nothing to do with whether God exists or not.

[NeedKarma]

Stu,

You can't argue with:

[StuMegu]

Stu,

You can't argue with:

LOL:D

Tis true Need. But nevertheless Sport is Sport and I've had a long week:)

[deist]

LOL:D

Tis true Need. But nevertheless Sport is Sport and I've had a long week:)

I thought askmehelpdesk was for sharing information & ideas, not making sport.

[NeedKarma]

I thought askmehelpdesk was for sharing information & ideas, not making sport.

It's sometimes for both when the situation fits.

[Wangdoodle]

Why do you think that the universe cannot be uncreated?

I am following the theory that the universe has a beginning.

[Wangdoodle]

Classic example of ignorance creating God. Because we don't know exactly how the universe(s) came about we therefore assume God did it! The fact that we think something does not come from nothing has nothing to do with whether God exists or not.

You asked who made God. Not, does God exist. So, the premises in your question is that God does exist. My answer is referring to who made God.