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Nov 3, 2020, 01:46 PM
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Today when I voted I thanked poll watchers from both parties for their patriotic service . I trust the results from my district because of their dedication .
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Nov 3, 2020, 01:56 PM
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What was really encouraging was that for the 1st time I can remember . Both poll watchers were younger than me . I don't think that was a reflection of my age as much as a increase in the concept of civic duty amongst the younger generations .
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Nov 4, 2020, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Today when I voted I thanked poll watchers from both parties for their patriotic service . I trust the results from my district because of their dedication .
They deserved it if they were as friendly courteous and helpful as the ones I countered.
Originally Posted by tomder55
What was really encouraging was that for the 1st time I can remember . Both poll watchers were younger than me . I don't think that was a reflection of my age as much as a increase in the concept of civic duty amongst the younger generations .
Everybody looks younger to you Tom (me too!), because they are you old coot. 8D I'll be honest as I have seen the youngsters show me a lot of respect for my age the last few years.
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Nov 4, 2020, 07:49 AM
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4 years ago it was my geezer peers doing the poll watching . Yesterday they did a detailed examination of my signature instead of a quick glance . They noted my signature had slightly changed . I told them the problem was that in the past I used a pen and not a stylus .
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Nov 4, 2020, 11:42 AM
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One thing that has to be agreed upon is that this is the 2nd election that the polling organizations got hopelessly wrong . Latest example ..
Susan Collins has won the Maine Senate race.Collins did not lead a single poll the entire cycle, and trailed by 5.5 in the Real Clear Politics average in the final two months of the campaign.
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Nov 4, 2020, 11:46 AM
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Appears Mitch will keep the senate gavel at this point.
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Nov 4, 2020, 01:15 PM
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Collins has a lot of leverage and has often crossed the aisle . She has another 6 years ;will probably not run again after serving for 30 years ,
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Nov 4, 2020, 11:11 PM
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She and other repubs have a somewhat good rep among both sides, but everybody has to toe the party line in recent years. Partisanship and gridlock combined with tribalism doesn't solve problems and no where is that more apparent than our response to this economy destroying virus. 90,000 new cases in one day?
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Nov 5, 2020, 09:56 AM
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the virus is in it's 2nd circumnavigation of the planet . It is what it is . What would be economy destroying is the Quid prescription of hunkering down and not living our lives . Quid must've built an alter to the virus. It gave him his ONLY campaign issue.
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Nov 5, 2020, 12:29 PM
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Ha! Sickness and death gets attention of all the Earth. So did the dufus not dealing with it properly. Everybody has to adjust to it AGAIN!
You can explain how living your life when you're sick or dead is a good thing any time you want.
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Nov 5, 2020, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
the virus is in it's 2nd circumnavigation of the planet . It is what it is . What would be economy destroying is the Quid prescription of hunkering down and not living our lives . Quid must've built an alter to the virus. It gave him his ONLY campaign issue.
Thats northern hemisphere like AGW/ CV19 is a northern hemisphere problem now the big question are they linked does paranoia grow and grow
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Nov 8, 2020, 02:44 PM
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Grover Cleveland Trump .... 2024
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Nov 8, 2020, 03:04 PM
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Trump will move on, he will be too old in 2024 besides we don't know what the issues will be then, they will not be what they are today
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Nov 8, 2020, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Grover Cleveland Trump .... 2024
You're drifting, tomder. Time to wake up and return to reality.
Trump is done. He will be a joke for the rest of his life. The president who was impeached and could not get anywhere near his campaign promises - his promise to have Mexico pay for the wall, his promise to eliminate Obamacare, and his promise to "drain the swamp". The Trump swamp dwarfs whatever swamp was there when he took office.
The damage he did to the country will soon be rectified by Biden-Harris. Pay attention.
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Nov 8, 2020, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Athos
The damage he did to the country will soon be rectified by Biden-Harris. Pay attention.
No america will be dragged into socialism, Biden will be a pawn to the Harris agenda
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Nov 8, 2020, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by paraclete
No america will be dragged into socialism, Biden will be a pawn to the Harris agenda
What is your definition of socialism?
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Nov 8, 2020, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wondergirl
What is your definition of socialism?
Universal free health care, shutdowns and mask wearing mandatory, mandatory CV19 testing and isolation, climate change programs, welfare programs instead of boosting employment, housing schemes, public transport, massive increase in public service and regulation, free tertiary education, the list is endless
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Nov 8, 2020, 09:33 PM
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Well we got rid of the lying cheating stealing bullying dufus, but the right wing loony noise machine is still alive and well still.
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Nov 9, 2020, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by paraclete
Universal free health care, shutdowns and mask wearing mandatory, mandatory CV19 testing and isolation, climate change programs, welfare programs instead of boosting employment, housing schemes, public transport, massive increase in public service and regulation, free tertiary education, the list is endless
At least you named what was asked, unlike your fellow anti-socialists here who did a lot less than you did. Now, WHY are these things "socialism"?
What's wrong with free health care? Don't you want people to be healthy and cared for when sick? Shutdowns as necessary and mask wearing mandatory during a crisis is not acceptable? Why not?
Climate change programs, public transport, etc., - WHY are these programs not acceptable to you? Welfare programs don't REPLACE unemployment, they are in addition to it. Doesn't free tertiary education in state schools improve the society? Why are you against that?
I hope you can reply in detail.
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Nov 9, 2020, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Athos
At least you named what was asked, unlike your fellow anti-socialists here who did a lot less than you did. Now, WHY are these things "socialism"?
What's wrong with free health care? Don't you want people to be healthy and cared for when sick? Shutdowns as necessary and mask wearing mandatory during a crisis is not acceptable? Why not?
Climate change programs, public transport, etc., - WHY are these programs not acceptable to you? Welfare programs don't REPLACE unemployment, they are in addition to it. Doesn't free tertiary education is state schools improve the society? Why are you against that?
I hope you can reply in detail.
I did not say they are unacceptable but it depends on how you implement them, your last attempt at health care was a farce, not socialist, but capitalist advantaging big business. Putting government money into that farce called climate change is just another way of advantaging big business. You have welfare programs without addressing minimum livable wages just subsidising big business. True socialism would nationalise those big businesses. By all means have free tertiary education, free secondary education, free elementary education but don't spend the money on useless liberal oriented courses. I know about shutdowns, they were successfully implemented here and we are down to zero community infection but it took real leadership curtailing individual freedoms, not popular and killed many small businesses. I can't see it happening there
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