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    #161

    Jun 29, 2019, 02:59 PM
    what part of administration and executive authority do you not understand, do you think it means standby and do nothing? it certainly means more than what some beknighted politician thinks is a good idea
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    #162

    Jun 29, 2019, 03:21 PM
    Just about right. There seems to be very little in the way of checks and balances for what the Court decides.
    yes in fact there is no check and balance since the Marbury v Madison .Whatever the court says goes regardless how preposterous their decision is . Plessy v Ferguson was a SCOTUS decision that decided that segregation was the law of the land . A later SCOTUS decided in Brown v Board of Education that Plessy was incorrectly decided . The Dred Scott decision reversed the Missouri compromise and that directly led to the Civil War. The Korematsu decision rubber stamped the illegal detention of Japanese American citizens . And of course the Griswald v Connecticut case was the most egregious example of SCOTUS verbal jui jitsu in history short of Roberts changing the plain language of Obamacare to say that a "penalty " that would've been unconstitutional was constitutional because it was a "tax"....even though the emperor made it clear that it was not a tax.
    In Griswald Justice Douglas came up with the most convoluted reasoning to create what has become known as the privacy right .
    "The foregoing cases suggest that specific guarantees in the Bill of
    Rights have penumbras, formed by emanations from those guarantees that
    help give them life and substance. "
    What does that even mean ? Penumbra is an astronomical term for when there is a partial shadow in an eclipse .Emaination is a scientific term for gas made from decay .The case was about birth control .But the case led directly to Roe V Wade....another wrongly decided case
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    #163

    Jun 29, 2019, 03:28 PM
    Well Tom it seems your courts with their politically appointed judges are incapable of making right decisions. In earlier eras the problem would have been quickly solved. Thomas Moore comes to mind
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    #164

    Jun 29, 2019, 04:30 PM
    you mean Becket ?
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    #165

    Jun 29, 2019, 05:43 PM
    Him too
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    #166

    Jun 30, 2019, 01:45 PM
    Well our dufus has another historic photo op. He shook hands with Kim and walked though NK on his way home. No deals though but one can hope they agreed to keep talking, even while NK keeps it's nukes and Iran contemplates theirs.
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    #167

    Jun 30, 2019, 04:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Well our dufus has another historic photo op. He shook hands with Kim and walked though NK on his way home. No deals though but one can hope they agreed to keep talking, even while NK keeps it's nukes and Iran contemplates theirs.
    I think we have established that the possession of nukes is a talking point, which leads us to ask if Trump can talk to Kim in a amicable manner why can't he talk to Iran the same way. There was a deal which means settlement of disputes was further down the road with Iran than with NK and yet he can be polite to one and shouts at the other
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    #168

    Jul 1, 2019, 02:20 PM
    Trump wants to talk to the Mullahs and has offered to do so. I want them gone and for the people of Iran to get the liberty they deserve . Trump gave up Presidential prestige for nothing so far with un-Kim
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    #169

    Jul 2, 2019, 05:29 AM
    The time to talk was before you turned the screws up and tore up the signed sealed and deliverd deal on the table by the Chinese, Russians, and Europeans along with us. No fan of Iran, but if the other signatories of the deal tell the dufus to screw off then his war only has him and his sycophants playing with themselves. I don't think the other countries were happy with that G2 meeting, or the dufus photo op with Kim after.

    Not a good look that everybody in the world is either sanctioned or tarrifed by the dufus...except for Vlad who loves it immensely. Wait until Bolton gets over his exile to Mongolia so he can hit somebody. What happened to Pompeo? No Netty either to blow sweet nothings in the dufus's ear either. Just Ivanka trying to look important.

    Nobody likes her either. Them Mexicans better hurry up and train those 4,000 extra troops for the border or the dufus may jump in their butts again next month. You know how he is.
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    #170

    Jul 2, 2019, 07:07 AM
    G2 well that is what I would expect from a self obsessed american
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    #171

    Jul 2, 2019, 07:26 AM
    LOL, I mean't G20.
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    #172

    Jul 2, 2019, 07:48 AM
    a self obsessed american
    See what I mean?
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    #173

    Jul 2, 2019, 09:27 AM
    The time to talk was before you turned the screws up and tore up the signed sealed and deliverd deal
    Iran was pissing all over the paper it was written on before the ink dried .
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    #174

    Jul 2, 2019, 11:40 AM
    Not according to our own government proclamation, and the other signatories. They were in compliance with the nuclear treaty even if they had other stuff they were doing we didn't like.

    The dufus is LYING...AGAIN as usual.
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    #175

    Jul 7, 2019, 01:03 PM
    The 14th amendment almost mandates a citizenship question Section 2 states :

    "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the inhabitants of such state, being 18 years of age , and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such citizens shall bear to the whole number of citizens 18 years of age in such state."


    There is no ambiguity .It is mandatory .

    Compliance is impossible without counting how many CITIZENS live in each state. There is a constitutional obligation to obtain citizenship data.

    Trump should issue an executive order stating that, to comply with the requirements of Section 2 of the 14th Amendment, the citizenship question will be added to the 2020 census.


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    #176

    Jul 7, 2019, 03:33 PM
    Go ahead disobey the court, and end up back in court.
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    #177

    Jul 12, 2019, 07:48 AM
    The dufus won't add the citizenship question to the census, but told his cabinet to send citizenship data to where ever, as Acosta RESIGNS amid scandal and controversy, just like many before him. I lost count, but expect the number to rise given the Dufus's penchant for dubious characters around him. Of course that means his kids too.

    A shoe that will drop soon.
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    #178

    Jul 12, 2019, 09:03 AM
    yeah Trump caved . you must be tired of winning .
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    #179

    Jul 12, 2019, 10:02 AM
    I never get tired of winning at anything. You know that! I haven't forgot what losing is for a minute though! You know that too.
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    #180

    Jul 12, 2019, 10:09 AM
    We're all winning with the Trump economy.

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