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    Oct 11, 2010, 01:05 PM
    Does Macy's do an Esteem check?
    I just wanted to know if Macy's does an Esteem, retail theft database, check as part of their pre-employment checks? I was turned down at another job because they did this check. I thought my name had not been added to this database, so I did not disclose the circumstances to the employer that turned me down; however, if during the interview process with Macy's I mention the circumstances, can they be overlooked because I disclosed them?
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    Oct 11, 2010, 02:25 PM

    If you have a criminal record your name may be on 100's of private data bases. Is is on the regular police record ?
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    Oct 11, 2010, 02:56 PM
    No, it is not. I was not convicted of anything; however, I know for a fact that I'm on the Esteem database and I aim to remove it; however, that takes time and I need a job now.
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    Oct 11, 2010, 03:02 PM
    Actually, to supplement that, I was never even charged with anything criminally.
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    Oct 11, 2010, 05:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Iamda View Post
    if during the interview process with Macy's I mention the circumstances, can they be overlooked because I disclosed them?
    Hello I:

    You're given NO immunity from your record simply because you disclosed it to them before they found out themselves...

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    Oct 11, 2010, 05:57 PM
    Well, I'm not referring to immunity, but I mean if they find out and I omit it, then obviously I'm not going to get it. However, I was wondering if like criminal disclosures, it says that it will not automatically disqualify you from employment, would that be the same for disclosing this?
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    Oct 11, 2010, 06:27 PM

    I may of course guestion the legality of a data base that claims you committed retail theft, but were never arrested, and never tried for the crime. They are basically saying you are guilty of something that you were never tried for.

    But basically if you tell them ahead of time ( unless you explain it is there in error, confused with someone else or something)

    But to be blunt, if they have 140 applications for one job opening ( and often it will be more) if there is any blurr on the application what so ever it gets tossed and they go on to find some without any problems ( according to the rules they are using )

    Basically they can only ask if you were ever convicted of a crime,

    And if another store is telling other business you stole something and have no proof of that, they open theirself up to some law suit issues.
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    Oct 11, 2010, 06:35 PM
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    I suspected the not getting the job based on the information provided to them, but I'm leaning towards telling them and taking my chances rather than going through the whole hiring process only to be told before you get a schedule, "sorry, but..."

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