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Aug 19, 2010, 11:06 AM
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Cite your sources!
Right?
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Aug 19, 2010, 11:27 AM
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You can check my facts . According to his bios his father wasn't even that good a Muslim. He allegedly lost faith and became atheist.
My opinion... I don't think he holds any religious faith too intensely . Like I said... I think his attendance at Trinity was part political opportunism ,and part the parental obligation to raise your children with a moral foundation.
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Aug 20, 2010, 05:07 AM
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He sent NASA Administrator, Ret. General/Astronaut Bolden on tour to raise Muslim esteem (NASA site/Bolden speeches and Al-Jazerra interview)) while muslims kill American military.
He appointed devout muslims to high level Homeland Security positions ( snopes.com: Muslims Appointed to Department of Homeland Security?)
Two well-documented, sourced, vetted, very pro-muslim facts.
Please respond with equally documented Obama Christian Support credentials.
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Aug 20, 2010, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by smearcase
He sent NASA Administrator, Ret. General/Astronaut Bolden on tour to raise Muslim esteem (NASA site/Bolden speeches and Al-Jazerra interview)) while muslims kill American military.
He appointed devout muslims to high level Homeland Security positions ( snopes.com: Muslims Appointed to Department of Homeland Security?)
Two well-documented, sourced, vetted, very pro-muslim facts.
Please respond with equally documented Obama Christian Support credentials.
? I support Muslims but I'm not a Muslim. I'm not sure how your comments are an answer to my question.
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Aug 20, 2010, 05:22 AM
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I don't support muslims. I support the American troops fighting against muslims as we speak.
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Aug 20, 2010, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by smearcase
He sent NASA Administrator, Ret. General/Astronaut Bolden on tour to raise Muslim esteem (NASA site/Bolden speeches and Al-Jazerra interview)) while muslims kill American military.
He appointed devout muslims to high level Homeland Security positions ( snopes.com: Muslims Appointed to Department of Homeland Security?)
Two well-documented, sourced, vetted, very pro-muslim facts.
Please respond with equally documented Obama Christian Support credentials.
snopes.com: Who Is Barack Obama?
Obama has appointed Jews & Christians to various posts as well. Maybe he figures devout Muslims might have a better insight? I don't know. But, being a devout Muslim doesn't automatically make someone a Muslim terrorist.
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Aug 20, 2010, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by smearcase
I don't support muslims. I support the American troops fighting against muslims as we speak.
Hello smear:
And, the Muslims fighting along WITH our soldiers?? What are they? Chopped liver?
Besides, I thought we went into Iraq to LIBERATE the Muslims. How does THAT sit with your anti-Muslim rant? You don't need to answer. There IS no answer to the stuff you're saying.
I WILL say this. I'm a Jew. If you want to know what lead to the holocaust, it was stuff LIKE THIS. I also know that you won't understand what I'm saying. Bigotry is BLIND.
excon
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Aug 20, 2010, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by smearcase
I don't support muslims. I support the American troops fighting against muslims as we speak.
That's a sad comment.
So what about the Muslims who are a part of our troops?
But I digress. Unless someone can quote Obama as to what he says his faith is, I guess there's no answer to my question.
I don't want a debate right here right now, I just asked a question.
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by smearcase
I don't support muslims. I support the American troops fighting against muslims as we speak.
Kill all the brown people!!!
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:02 AM
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Here is an interesting op-ed in a major.. um.. publication during the campaign.
It says that because the President's father was Muslim ,under Muslim law the President is one .For him to declare anything else makes him apostate.
The New York Times > Log In
The only conclusion one can draw from anything I've read is that the President considers himself Christian .
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:27 AM
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"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
-Article VI, Section 3, United States Constitution
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:40 AM
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NK . No one is using his religion as a basis to say he's ineligible for the Presidency.
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
-Article VI, Section 3, United States Constitution
I know. So what's the point of posting that?
I see only 2-3 posts here that even come close to being attempts to answer my question. Is that how things work here? Did I post in the wrong place?
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:44 AM
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I'm just reaffirming that the faith of a president shouldn't even be an issue. He needs not "affirm" his faith to anyone.
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Joggs
Did I post in the wrong place?
Hello again, Joggs:
No. You just posted an insensitive question. I suspect that you are totally unaware of it, though, and I don't know how to explain it to you.
excon
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Joggs:
No. You just posted an insensitive question. I suspect that you are totally unaware of it, though, and I don't know how to explain it to you.
excon
So it's insensitive to wonder and ask? Wow.
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Aug 20, 2010, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I'm just reaffirming that the faith of a president shouldn't even be an issue. He needs not "affirm" his faith to anyone.
I've never suggested that he "need to". I'm mind blown how asking a simple question has brought out so many opinions and comments that have nothing to do with the question.
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Aug 20, 2010, 07:02 AM
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You say this:
Originally Posted by Joggs
I've never suggested that he "need to".
But your original question for this thread is:
Originally Posted by Joggs
Can anyone supply a recent quote from the President Obama where he affirms what his faith is as of today?
Which is it?
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Aug 20, 2010, 07:09 AM
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Hello again, Joggs:
His religion has been a topic for a long time. You're not the first to ask. One of the first major controversy's about him involved his CHRISTIAN CHURCH, and the Rev. Wright... So, to those who looked, his religion was clear from the get go.
Then came the accusations that he was SECRETLY a Muslim, or that he didn't tell the truth, or that the circumstances surrounding his birth are mysterious... This was done to paint him as someone "other" than us, someone "different", someone "not like you and me". Personally, I don't care if he's a Muslim or not, but the accusations weren't simply about his religion, the accusations were about his AMERICANISM, and his ALLEGIANCE to this country.
Now, you may have asked out of simple curiosity. But, LOTS of people who would ask the same thing, have a political AGENDA in mind. Only YOU know which one you are.
excon
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