[cogs]

There's much speculation here, and cannot be replied to in one post. I'll start by saying that when reading anything, look at the motive and the message. This is beside looking at the facts, such as places, battles, cultures, tribes, and empires.
To me, the motive for the bible, is a preservation of history, for the knowledge and instruction of the present-day peoples.
The overall motive, I think, behind the books, is the will of god, demonstrated through society's reaction to his influence.
The will of god is pretty clearly spelled out, with commands for worship, and for all of us treating each other with love.
God's personality shows as he strikes at the cause of mankind's chaos.

[Galveston1]

If you read the Bible out of curiosity, how did you even make it through half of it? Most people that have tried to read it objectivly I assume, would be so turned off after the first 5 pages that they would drop it and go mow thier lawn. As far as it making sense, You would be hard pressed to find any sense at all in it's pages. It is filled with inaccuracies, controdictions, Absurdites, and down right scientific impossibilites. You see, in my opinion, when these guys were sitting around making this stuff up, they had no idea what science was all about. They did not understand that most stars are a million times bigger than the Earth. They didn't know the expanse of space. They didn't understand that the moon is not a source of light, but only reflects it. And for sure, they did not understand photosynthisis. God put all the plants on the Earth one day,,,, then waited 2 more days to come up with the sun. Enough said...

Spell check is not working for me right now, forgive the typos...

Athiests are always talking about contridictions, absuidites and scientific impossibilities, but when I ask them to give me a specific example, they don't. Re-read Gen. 1 and you will see that light is shown in vs 5, along with day and night.

[Credendovidis]

Athiests are always talking about contridictions, absuidites and scientific impossibilities, but when I ask them to give me a specific example, they don't.

That statement is not true and total nonsense!!

I have posted twice a topic here on this board on Biblical contradictions, mistakes, impossibilities, etc. complete with statements referring to biblebook and verse.

So your statement that "when you ask Atheists to give you a specific example, they don't" is completely incorrect.

I once provided a list of 50 examples, and another time a list of over 100 examples.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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[Galveston1]

That statement is not true and total nonsense !!!

I have posted twice a topic here on this board on Biblical contradictions, mistakes, impossibilities, etc. , complete with statements refering to biblebook and verse.

So your statement that "when you ask Atheists to give you a specific example, they don't" is completely incorrect.

I once provided a list of 50 examples, and another time a list of over 100 examples.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Really? On what thread and what post?

[Credendovidis]

Really? On what thread and what post??

On Religious Discussions. Do your own homework...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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[jrwild62]

there's much speculation here, and cannot be replied to in one post. i'll start by saying that when reading anything, look at the motive and the message. this is beside looking at the facts, such as places, battles, cultures, tribes, and empires.
to me, the motive for the bible, is a preservation of history, for the knowledge and instruction of the present-day peoples.
the overall motive, i think, behind the books, is the will of god, demonstrated through society's reaction to his influence.
the will of god is pretty clearly spelled out, with commands for worship, and for all of us treating each other with love.
god's personality shows as he strikes at the cause of mankind's chaos.

God's personality shows as he strikes at the cause of mankind's chaos.

"As he STRIKES!"

Need you say more??

[jrwild62]

god's personality shows as he strikes at the cause of mankind's chaos.

"As he STRIKES!"

Need you say more????

Why instead of 'STRIKING', can't he love us more as he professes to?

[cogs]

Why instead of 'STRIKING', can't he love us more as he professes to?

love is the reason god intervenes in our lives. Sin is what brings our downfall, and god wants to prevent that. Some would say that sin is not a problem. God has a standard for us, that we do not have for ourselves. He knows the result to sin. We would be wise to find out his remedy.

[Galveston1]

Thumbs up, Cogs!

[jrwild62]

love is the reason god intervenes in our lives. sin is what brings our downfall, and god wants to prevent that. some would say that sin is not a problem. god has a standard for us, that we do not have for ourselves. he knows the end result to sin. we would be wise to find out his remedy.

That's another point I would like address. "God's love for us." God says his love is unconditional. He loves all his subjects,, except!, gays, Muslums, Jews, Buddists, murderers, thieves, people who disobey their fathers, anybody who does not whorship ME, and esspecially people who work on Sundays. Of course this list could go on forever. LOVE does not mean sending people to hell to be tortured for all of eternity for finite sins.
Why couldn't God program our brains to simply not have any thoughts of sin? He made us with free will. Big mistake! God desires all his subjects to worship him 24/7/365/eternity. Yet if a fireman works on Sunday to save your home from flames,, he will burn in hell. If a soldier shoots a guy in half with an AK-47 to protect the freedom of his country, he burns in hell. THOU SHALL NOT KILL! There is no subtext, no previsions, no exemptions, THOU SHALL NOT KILL! Has any one in here mowed their lawn, washed dishes, punched a time clock on Sunday?? To hell with you.
Sure, God loves us, but only if you follow his rules to the tee. And to go thought the 73 average years of life expectantcy without have a single sexual thought in your head seems impossible to me. There-fore 99.9999% of humans go to hell to burn. Some may say, but you can ask for forgivness before death. Was Hitler afforded that say right?