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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I don't link sites I haven't read.
It's hard to reason with people who see everything through "I despise Trump" lenses. Any and all activities are acceptable so long as they assist in bringing the former pres down.
The sad thing about it all is that those people who led the anti-Trump collusion in the media will not be held accountable and life will go on as before.
I said that as there is far more information about the election and not Biden's laptop.
I don't despise or even Anti, prefer a more measured and level playing field, with multiple sources that can be verified.
Hearsay is great, but actual irrefutable evidence wins every time.
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Uber Member
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Dec 5, 2022, 06:32 AM
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I think for the anti-Trumpers, evidence never rises to the level of being irrefutable.
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Ultra Member
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Dec 5, 2022, 06:33 AM
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Big tech money and collusion had pushed the election to Trump. And the effort is still going on for 2024.
Which Big Tech company supported Trump in 2020 and now ?
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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Which Big Tech company supported Trump in 2020 and now ?
Dunno, when you use the term Big Tech, do you really mean the main stream Social sites or actual all of the tech sector including the computer manufactures ?
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I think for the anti-Trumpers, evidence never rises to the level of being irrefutable.
Unfortunately that can so easily apply to anti-Bidens as well.
See how partisanship works ?
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Dec 5, 2022, 06:49 AM
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Actually not, as I understand it, true. It has only shown that there was insufficient evidence for a court case to proceed.
correct . the majority of the cases were decided on issues of "standing " or denied without opinion by the court .
This was true especially in SCOTUS where the justices (mostly correct in my view ) did not want to deal with Presidential election disputes because that is not a legitimate role of the courts . Clarence Thomas opposed their decisions but recent justices appointed by Trump sided with the court (Kavanaugh and Barrett) .
The court getting involved in the 2000 election after the Goracle filed suit was the mistake that opened the barn door . Presidential elections are state run and there should be very little involvement at the national level either legislative or judicial .
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Uber Member
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Dec 5, 2022, 10:53 AM
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Dunno, when you use the term Big Tech, do you really mean the main stream Social sites or actual all of the tech sector including the computer manufactures ?
Fair enough observation. The evidence has pointed to Facebook, Twitter, and several big media news sites. The burying of the HB laptop story unquestionably (irrefutably) affected a close race in favor of Biden. It's very troubling that the FBI was orchestrating much of this.
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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
The burying of the HB laptop story unquestionably (irrefutably) affected a close race in favor of Biden. It's very troubling that the FBI was orchestrating much of this.
Do you really believe that the American people at large give a care what the Ivory Tower dwellers do, without the associated spin ?
If that was the case why are there so many multi-millionaires in either house.
I know that the pursuant of money represents the American Dream, but really...
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Uber Member
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Dec 5, 2022, 12:33 PM
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Do you really believe that the American people at large give a care what the Ivory Tower dwellers do, without the associated spin ?
If the American people would not have cared, then why do you suppose the story was buried? Would we have cared that a candidate for pres's son was engaged in illegal activity with a foreign government and daddy Biden was lying about his involvement in it? Ya think?
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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 12:43 PM
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Was it purposely buried or was it merely the grand Social echo chamber at work ??
Look at how often trending items change on Twitter..
People just got bored of it all. They know the inhabitants of the Hill are generally crooks, so just chalked it up to that, or another attack story in the political arena.
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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Nope, don't trust politicos as far as I could throw them.
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Uber Member
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Dec 5, 2022, 01:00 PM
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Yahoo.com is a "politico"??? On what planet?
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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Yahoo.com is a "politico"??? On what planet?
Not yahoo, the actual politicians.
We know they are using their contacts to their own ends, and bending, if not breaking laws on route.
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Uber Member
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Dec 5, 2022, 01:54 PM
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So since Biden is guilty, then everyone must be guilty? That seems like a philosophy of convenience.
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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
So since Biden is guilty, then everyone must be guilty? That seems like a philosophy of convenience.
Show me an honest politician....
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Uber Member
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Dec 5, 2022, 02:40 PM
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Show me a totally honest anyone.
The point is that it is now an irrefutable fact that the administration pressured ;and the press and big tech social platforms willing and /or unwillingly went along with a de-facto censoring of news that had a direct bearing on the 2020 Presidential race .
And if that can be referred to as "meaningless", then the word has itself become meaningless.
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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Show me a totally honest anyone.
The point is that it is now an irrefutable fact that the administration pressured ;and the press and big tech social platforms willing and /or unwillingly went along with a de-facto censoring of news that had a direct bearing on the 2020 Presidential race .
And if that can be referred to as "meaningless", then the word has itself become meaningless.
Unethical for sure, however is that unconstitutional ?
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Uber Member
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Dec 5, 2022, 03:08 PM
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Well, at least it now seems to be accepted as meaningful, even if being merely "unethical" is, it appears, OK.
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BossMan
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Dec 5, 2022, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Well, at least it now seems to be accepted as meaningful, even if being merely "unethical" is, it appears, OK.
As we were talking about the recent utterance by Mr Trump, you dragged this towards Biden's laptop and Twitter/FBI burying the story.
Tom mentioned constitution violations, without any further details, and I was interested to know what they are.
So, I ask again, is this unconstitutional and would it be the root of Mr Trump's recent ire ?
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