[speechlesstx]

From the mythical war on women to hating blacks, children and old people, the war on Republicans continues from the top. Instead of discussing solutions, the man who would restore civility to politics has perfected Rule for Radicals number 12, “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

Yesterday in his presser he demonstrated the tactic perfectly...

President Obama likes to talk about civility in politics, but then he has a particular personal talent for attributing to his political opponents only base motives and beliefs they don't come close to holding. Consult his Monday press conference for a classic of the genre.

Mr. Obama was asked an anodyne question at one point about reducing the deficit and the long-term accumulation of debt, and perhaps you've noticed that the deficit is $1 trillion a year and the debt is building rapidly toward 90% of GDP. Mr. Obama acted as if solving this problem would be a pleasant stroll through a dewy meadow, claiming that "if we're trying to reduce the deficit, then we can shape a bipartisan plan to reduce the deficit. . . . There's a recipe for getting that done."

Good to know. And there are a few reasonable Republicans, Mr. Obama allowed. "But it seems as if what's motivating and propelling at this point some of the House Republicans is more than simply deficit reduction."

Here's the rest in full: "They have a particular vision about what government should and should not do. So they are suspicious about government's commitments, for example, to make sure that seniors have decent health care as they get older. They have suspicions about Social Security. They have suspicions about whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat, or whether we should be spending money on medical research. So they've got a particular view of what government should do and should be."

The next time Mr. Obama holds a press conference, somebody should ask him to identify by name those who want to repeal Social Security, steal food from orphans and cancel science funding. We'd like to meet these Visigoths. Otherwise, if the fiscal negotiations are going nowhere, perhaps it is because the President simply won't make an honest argument.

And I'm sure on the way to stealing the children's food, pushing granny over the cliff and taking medicine to the stone age they probably kicked a few puppies, too.

So who'll be first to end their war on Republicans and make an honest argument?

[NeedKarma]

No honest arguments on the Current Events board - just the talking points of the day. Nothing ever, ever get solved, no one ever changes their mind. It's one big echo chamber.

[speechlesstx]

No honest arguments on the Current Events board - just the talking points of the day. Nothing ever, ever get solved, no one ever changes their mind. It's one big echo chamber.

Not so. Some libs use the same talking points without ever catching up to today's.

[NeedKarma]

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what the president said. What was wrong with that article was what they did with it:

The next time Mr. Obama holds a press conference, somebody should ask him to identify by name those who want to repeal Social Security, steal food from orphans and cancel science funding. We'd like to meet these Visigoths.

Absolutely terrible partisan "reporting".

[speechlesstx]

There was absolutely nothing wrong with what the president said. What was wrong with that article was what they did with it:
Absolutely terrible partisan "reporting".

Obviously you still can't tell the difference between reporting and opinion. For those of you who can't they give little hints. See if you can find the hint.

[paraclete]

No honest arguments on the Current Events board - just the talking points of the day. Nothing ever, ever get solved, no one ever changes their mind. It's one big echo chamber.

Karma they are not even the talking points of the day, but the same old rants.

The world goes to hell in a hand basket but do we discuss that, no.

[NeedKarma]

The world goes to hell in a hand basket but do we discuss that, no.

I agree. It's pathetic but I guess it makes them feel better to demonize those who don't agree with their views. I guess they have nothing better to do in life.

[speechlesstx]

I agree. It's pathetic but I guess it makes them feel better to demonize those who don't agree with their views. I guess they have nothing better to do in life.

Gee, exactly what Obama did yesterday, as in the point of this thread. He ought to feel really good about himself today.

[paraclete]

Candidly who cares how Obama feels, he just needs to get on with important things.

[NeedKarma]

"They have suspicions about Social Security." = "demonize"

Only a deranged mind accepts that leap.

[tomder55]

The world goes to hell in a hand basket but do we discuss that, no.

So start a new discussion topic about the world going to hell... yawn. Maybe you can talk about how the French got their butts whipped this week in Mali.

[speechlesstx]

"They have suspicions about Social Security." = "demonize"

Taken out of context I'd agree, but in context the implication is more than clear.

So they are suspicious about government's commitments, for example, to make sure that seniors have decent health care as they get older. They have suspicions about Social Security. They have suspicions about whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat, or whether we should be spending money on medical research.

Only a deranged mind accepts that leap.

Now THAT"S demonizing. I doubt many will take you seriously since you can't tell the difference between reporting and opinion - even with hints like :"top stories in opinion" just above the title.

[tomder55]

As for emperor Zero's presser ;it was full of the usual pabulum... lots of self praise ,lots of contradictory charges that the few in the audience of compliant press picked up on . He used the same old tired Dem threats of cutting off retirees and veterans checks if the Repubics don't goose step on his command.
He drew a line in the sand about budget cuts... he'll take none of that ! He said they would “fundamentally change commitments that we've made to make sure that seniors don't go into poverty, or that children who are disabled are properly cared for.”
He also said that he would NOT negotiate on the debt ceiling...
He takes no responsibility for the debt that has ballooned in 4 years under his watch ;and is destined to explode to $20 trillion before his 3rd term. That would be a debt of $125,000 for every member of the shrinking US workforce.
And yes he demonized Repubics.. He specifically charged that they wanted to starve poor children. ( [they]“have suspicions about whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat”) .

Well sorry Emperor ,I will have no respect at all for Speaker Bonehead if he caves in again. Time to draw a line in the sand... The non-negotiable deal is one dollar of cuts for every dollar of debt ceiling increase. Take it or leave it.

[Tuttyd]

Taken out of context I'd agree, but in context the implication is more than clear.





Now THAT"S demonizing. I doubt many will take you seriously since you can't tell the difference between reporting and opinion - even with hints like :"top stories in opinion" just above the title.

Yes, it is an opinion piece. Leaving this one aside as an opinion piece the last few links you have posted in various places seem to exhibit some sort of objectivity on the part of the writers.

Perhaps Tom could take a leaf out of your book. It would be a refreshing change.

[tomder55]

What part of my commentary do you dispute ?

[Tuttyd]

what part of my commentary do you dispute ?

I wasn't disputing your commentary. My post was in relation to the links you and speech provide. In this particular instance I am referring to the latest YouTube video you posted.

If you want to maintain credibility for your side why do you post such nonsense? It is deliberately false and misleading. Did you actually watch the contents?

[talaniman]

There is no war on republicans, just a strong push back for throwing rocks for 4 SOLID years. When we holler you say foul, when we duck, you say cowards. When we talk, you holler rights. When we throw the rocks back, you say WAR.

Everybody voted against you last November, but you still haven't stopped throwing rocks.

[tomder55]

I wasn't disputing your commentary. My post was in relation to the links you and speech provide. in this particular instance I am referring to the latest youtube video you posted.

If you want to maintain credibility for your side why do you post such nonsense? It is deliberately false and misleading. Did you actually watch the contents?

Certainly did . I note you don't dispute that break ins have increased. I'm sure it is no solace to the homeowner that the predator is coming after them with a knife or blunt instrument when all the homeowner has to protect home and property is the same.

[dontknownuthin]

I would agree that Obama is very divisive and is weak in building consensus and reaching across the aisle. This is not an attack on the democrats. I thought Clinton was an absolute genius at building consensus and reaching across the aisle. I do not view this as a democratic issue but as an Obama issue. In nearly every speech, he makes snippy remarks about the Republicans and puts his role as head Democrat above his role as President of the entire country, half of which is Republican.

While I am a Republican, I support some very prominent democrats. I'm very satisfied with the Rahm Emanuel who's doing a bang-up job as Mayor of Chicago. I campaigned for Tammy Duckworth, a new democratic Congress woman. But I am frustrated with the lack of will in the Democratic party to resolve the corruption in their party here in Illinois where I live. We have 5 governors who have gone to jail, four of whom were democrats. But when I try to speak to friends who are Democrats, they can hear nothing at all - NOTHING - negative about any member of their party, no matter how grossly inappropriate or illegal that member's behaviors have been.

This is very concerning. While I am a Republican, I will not hesitate to hold republicans in office accountable and accept legitimate criticism of them, as well as to give credit to members of congress and other officials credit where it is due. Until Democrats accept that Obama does not walk on water, and is sometimes wrong, that their party is not perfection and that Republicans aren't out to kick puppies and bankrupt seniors, we'll remain in this stalemate.

[Tuttyd]

certainly did . I note you don't dispute that break ins have increased. I'm sure it is no solace to the homeowner that the predator is coming after them with a knife or blunt instrument when all the homeowner has to protect home and property is the same.

What??


Ok I don't dispute that break in have increased.

Is this information on break in provided by you, or the people who made the video?

If it is provided by you then me NOT disputing this fact is NOT the same as disputing it.

On the other hand, if the figures in relation to break in are provided by the video makers then it is obvious I am not disputing your commentary.


Tom, your post doesn't make any sense in relation to what I said.