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Feb 6, 2009, 11:04 AM
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Feb 6, 2009, 11:33 AM
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HE means to shut everyone up: "You've got some economists and some folks who think they're economists. By the way, these days everybody thinks they're economists," he joked." Obama bemoans: Everyone's an economist
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Feb 6, 2009, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by George_1950
"You've got some economists and some folks who think they're economists. By the way, these days everybody thinks they're economists," he joked.
He's right of course.
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Feb 6, 2009, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
He's right of course.
Thus spake the LEADER: '"These (unemployment) numbers demand action. It is inexcusable and irresponsible for any of us to get bogged down in distraction, delay or politics as usual while millions of Americans are being put out of work," Obama said bluntly. "Now is the time for Congress to act."' Damn that constitution! Damn those Senate and House rules, at least the ones we can't overlook!
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Feb 6, 2009, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by George_1950
Thus spake the LEADER:
"spake"? Isn't that old English Bible talk? You are a prophet for Obama? Is this what Jesus would do?
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Feb 6, 2009, 12:00 PM
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I think he meant "thus saith the One." I don't know what Jesus has to do with this but it doesn't take a prophet to copy and paste Obama's own words.
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Feb 6, 2009, 12:07 PM
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My favorite word he uses is "irreversible " . He says unless the bucketlist is passed the recession might prove irreversible (more politics of fear).What is that supposed to mean ? Even the Great Depression was reversible .
What he means is that once he expands govt. spending it will be almost irreversible . The Dems will never shrink the size of gvt on their own accord.
It's the same demagogery being spun by the radical global environmentalists.
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Feb 6, 2009, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I checked your link and at no point do they say "thus saith the One" which sounds like someone reading from some old religious book. Where did you get that from?
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Feb 6, 2009, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I checked your link and at no point do they say "thus saith the One" which sounds like someone reading from some old religious book. Where did you get that from?
Think about it NK. You're sharp enough to figure it out.
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Feb 6, 2009, 01:26 PM
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And as of this morning, the stimulus package, all one trillion dollars of it has only a 38% approval rating of the people and Mr nobama has slipped to 61%
We'll talk again when he hits 35%
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Feb 6, 2009, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Speaking of nutty liberals, Barney Frank said congress will consider legislation that not only limits executive pay to bailout recipients but to " all U.S. companies."
How does the federal government micromanaging ALL U.S. companies sit with you guys complaining about no government oversight? It's the government and they're here to help, right?
I wonder what the supposed libertarians think of this?
When will they get to pro - athelete or actor / actresses, or TV star [ oprah? ] salaries.
Remember, all you folks waiting for the politicians to save you, they know best and they know and want to control how much you make.
G&P
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Feb 7, 2009, 08:06 PM
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I wonder, really, who Obama thinks will eventually pay this incomprehensible amount of money.
Judging by his recent appointments, the Democrats DON'T BELIEVE IN PAYING TAXES!!
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Feb 7, 2009, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by George_1950
Let us remember that liberals don't need a single conservative vote if the stimulus-pork-bill gets to the floor of the senate.
Forty-two percent of the stimulus includes tax cuts. Now you'd think that would make the Pubs happy, but not so. What they want to do is argue and fight and continue to show total disregard for the middle and lower classes, which by the way, have been suffering the most for the past eight years. McCain is so lost on the Senate floor that he is often befuddled, confused, and Cheney like. G-d help the U.S. if we continue to elect these old uneducated goats.
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Feb 8, 2009, 03:24 AM
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There is less infrastructure spending on this bill than was used in Boston's Big Dig.
Leave it to the Senate to come up with a" bipartisan compromise " where they claim they trimmed $50 billion from the legistation and it still costs more than the bill that came out of the House . The "deliberative body" at it's best!!
This site breaks down some of the projects ;their costs ,and how stimulating they will be regarding job creation.
Stimulus Watch: Keeping an Eye on Economic Recovery Spending
As you can see there is plenty of room for trimming garbage out of it. There is a rush to get this done so Obama can have a photo-op signing it on Lincoln's birthday.That is a poor rational for passing bad legislation .
The lies about the urgency have got to go. Most of the provisions in the bill should be added and debated in the regular omnibus spending legislation. Get the pork out of the bill and I will have no trouble supporting it.
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Feb 8, 2009, 09:31 AM
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I don't see where it will stimulate any economy or anything.
It looks like it mainly helps people working for the government jobs.
I don't see where it creates jobs for the average unemployed people.
I heard that much of the money will also go to George Sorros ACCORN,
The National Endowment for the Arts, STD education, food stamps,
I agree with Galveston this will backfire when it has to be funded.
I heard New York had to lay off 14,000 school teachers in order to compensate for their 'overspending'
Where is the money going to come from in the long run without hurting the economy in other areas?
It is worse than robbing Peter to pay Paul!
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Feb 8, 2009, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BABRAM
Forty-two percent of the stimulus includes tax cuts. Now you'd think that would make the Pubs happy, but not so. What they want to do is argue and fight and continue to show total disregard for the middle and lower classes, which by the way, have been suffering the most for the past eight years. McCain is so lost on the Senate floor that he is often befuddled, confused, and Cheney like. G-d help the U.S. if we continue to elect these old uneducated goats.
Um, doorbells?
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Feb 9, 2009, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The DEMS have to nurse the PUBS into acceptance. That's not an easy task. They were Bushed for the past eight years and are now showing signs of failure dependency. I mean the PUBS balked at newer bridges and renovations to historic sites, any meaningful infrastructure, so hey! now the elderly will have a bell to ring every time an angel gets his wings. ;)
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Feb 10, 2009, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BABRAM
The DEMS have to nurse the PUBS into acceptance. That's not an easy task. They were Bushed for the past eight years and are now showing signs of failure dependency. I mean the PUBS balked at newer bridges and renovations to historic sites, any meaningful infrastructure, so hey!, now the elderly will have a bell to ring every time an angel gets his wings. ;)
"Nursing" my arse, this bill is crap.
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Feb 10, 2009, 04:00 PM
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Today on Quinn & Rose they were talking about something even more scary hidden in the stimulus. They said that hidden in the "free" medical plan is a grid that determines IF THEY feel somebody should receive things like surgical procedures. If THEY feel that the amount outweighs your life expectancy then you do not qualify for the operation.
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Feb 10, 2009, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
"Nursing" my arse, this bill is crap.
A lot of bills are crap. Welcome to America. Greasing somebody's palm shouldn't be any surprise. I suspect you saw the last five seconds before halftime of the Super Bowl. Anytime loads of lettuce is involved things can happen. The PUBS do so for top percentage wage earners and the DEMS will throw money at anything. There's no revelation here.
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