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  1. Question: TDS on steroids

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    It is an exercise more appropriate for Nazi...

    It is an exercise more appropriate for Nazi Germany than for a supposedly free nation.
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    Yes and yes. Now, are you able to explain...

    Yes and yes.

    Now, are you able to explain your plainly contradictory ideas? Evidently, no.
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    You are still trying to have your cake and eat...

    You are still trying to have your cake and eat it, too. After starting with, "We are all bound by sin, the condition called sin; we are subject to sinful actions, " you then continue with,...
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    This is really stunning. It is the Biden admin...

    This is really stunning. It is the Biden admin going completely outside the rule of law.
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    So again, how can mankind be bound/subject to sin...

    So again, how can mankind be bound/subject to sin and yet have free will? For one to be true, the other cannot be true.
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    You are being evasive. You are describing pure...

    You are being evasive. You are describing pure free will, but you know that is not the question. So again, how can mankind be bound/subject to sin and yet have free will? For one to be true, the...
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    You've also been saying mankind is bound to sin....

    You've also been saying mankind is bound to sin. And as has been pointed out repeatedly, those two positions are contradictory. You have yet to explain how both can work together.

    That is at...
  8. Great question. Why do black students not perform...

    Great question. Why do black students not perform well? I'm sure that family structure has a lot to do with it. I'm sure that a culture which values athletics and music a great deal more than...
  9. It is all due to the great hidden secret. Black...

    It is all due to the great hidden secret. Black students do not perform as well in academic areas as other students do, so any grading system or system of admittance will invariably result in lower...
  10. Wifey and I went to an "art" exhibit a few days...

    Wifey and I went to an "art" exhibit a few days ago in our state art museum. One of the works on display involved four large murals, each one depicting a particular right. The first two involved...
  11. This is TWO agreements in just one week. It's...

    This is TWO agreements in just one week. It's getting a little eerie.

    Good night. Hope the hubster is doing well.
  12. Very true in all cases. That would include the...

    Very true in all cases. That would include the use of loudspeakers by pro-abortion protestors. It would also include the destruction of pregnancy help centers.
  13. I would agree with that, just like I think...

    I would agree with that, just like I think destroying public and private properties is a bad idea for BLM.
  14. Itís called freedom of speech.

    Itís called freedom of speech.
  15. That depends. If a person intends to eat lunch at...

    That depends. If a person intends to eat lunch at his desk and says a prayer of blessing, then fine. If a group want to pray during everyone's common lunch time, then fine. If someone wants to stand...
  16. Generally speaking, yes. There are limits to...

    Generally speaking, yes. There are limits to that. You can't just march into a public office building and take it over for a prayer meeting, but employees could certainly meet at lunch in an empty...
  17. You donít get to determine where people pray....

    You donít get to determine where people pray. Your desire to do so is a perfect example of what we need to avoid in this country.
  18. Yeah. You know those Christians. They never want...

    Yeah. You know those Christians. They never want to pray simply for the privilege and honor of doing so.
  19. You really need to read the decision. You are...

    You really need to read the decision. You are dramatically mischaracterizing it, a strategy also employed by liberal dems concerning the Dobbs case.
  20. This latest decision does not allow for that. The...

    This latest decision does not allow for that. The football players were not asked to join in. They inquired about it on their own. You dreaming up untrue conditions does not mean they happened.

    ...
  21. Either it's OK for him to pray in public or it's...

    Either it's OK for him to pray in public or it's not. Where it takes place would seem to have no bearing on it.
  22. So much for tolerance. So they consider...

    So much for tolerance.



    So they consider it to be an issue of "honor"? I guess any excuse will do when you are against the rule of law.
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    No, we're not. No, you didn't. This is not a...

    No, we're not.

    No, you didn't. This is not a serious reply on any planet in the universe. "You ran off the dock with this reply." Even now, you have nothing of substance to say.

    The Bible...
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    1. If you want to live in a fantasy world where...

    1. If you want to live in a fantasy world where pregnancies don't involve human life, then go for it.

    2. It was solid enough that you have no reply you can make. And frankly, that's par for the...
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    #45. "We are all subject to sin occasion by...

    #45. "We are all subject to sin occasion by occasion, by choice. We can sin or we can not sin. We are free to do either. That's free will."


    Honestly, I have no idea why you would ask that. You...
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    You are being evasive. You have just said we are...

    You are being evasive. You have just said we are all "bound", and yet you have claimed that we are "free". You need to explain how a bound person can be free.

    If you can.
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    1. Life is everyone's business. Unlike abortion,...

    1. Life is everyone's business. Unlike abortion, it is a Constitutionally protected right.

    2. Just a foolish, useless argument used, in my experience, by people who have no reasonable replies. It...
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    If you were a man, you'd understand. Both...

    If you were a man, you'd understand.

    Both statements are basically meaningless.

    The quote was that the pregnancy was "mandated" by the state. That's ridiculous. Now it is true that once a...
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    Then you are saying we are not free, for how can...

    Then you are saying we are not free, for how can a "bound" person be considered free?
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    Then what is it that people are "subject" to? To...

    Then what is it that people are "subject" to? To be "subject to" has the meaning of being controlled by, so what is it that people are controlled by?
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    The Lying Continues

    This is the comment made a group of Indiana senate democrats.

    The state has mandated that a woman become pregnant? Women have a "right" to have an abortion? A vote in the state legislature is not...
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    Then we are not subject to sin. It's one or the...

    Then we are not subject to sin. It's one or the other for, dear WG, you cannot be subject to the control of something else and yet still be free. Sorry, but you are violating a very simple concept....
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    "We are all subject to sin." Oh? Then you don't...

    "We are all subject to sin." Oh? Then you don't have free will.

    Earlier you ridiculed Paul's writing ("I didn't want to do that but golly gee whiz sin got into me and made me do it. I had no...
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    But you said earlier we are subject to sin. If...

    But you said earlier we are subject to sin. If that is true, then how are we able to act at our own discretion? Paul's chapter 7 passage does not agree with you.

    You must choose one or the other....
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    Free will eliminates being subject to anything...

    Free will eliminates being subject to anything other than self. Your position is illogical.
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    Are humans subject to sin? You have said...

    Are humans subject to sin? You have said previously that people are. If that is true, and you said it is, then humans do not truly have free will, do they?

    Outside of Christ, that is.
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    When an individual has sole authority over...

    When an individual has sole authority over his/her own decisions.
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    Humans are either subject to sin or owners of...

    Humans are either subject to sin or owners of free will. Can't have it both ways. Now I do agree with your final statement, but it only applies to those who trust Him as Savior.
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    Not a good one. We are subject to sin and yet...

    Not a good one. We are subject to sin and yet have free will. Well…ok.
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    So we are subject to sin, and yet we have free...

    So we are subject to sin, and yet we have free will? Very interesting theory.
  41. Question: TDS on steroids

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    Thankfully, Cheney is not in the Senate....

    Thankfully, Cheney is not in the Senate. Otherwise, your post was great. She and evidently her dad have a burr under their saddles with Trump.
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    I don't think we have free will in the sense you...

    I don't think we have free will in the sense you see it. Non-Christians are subject to sin and under its control. That is a very clear teaching as was shown above. Jesus put it this way.



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    So let's see. Paul, "must not have believed that...

    So let's see. Paul, "must not have believed that God gave mankind free will," but you do. Do you really think we should take your view over his? What part of the NT did you write?

    And you put your...
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    Take that up with Paul.

    Take that up with Paul.
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    It's not quite that simple. "We know that our...

    It's not quite that simple.

    "We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin."

    "15 I...
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    DW, Col. 1:13 might interest you in your...

    DW, Col. 1:13 might interest you in your thinking. "He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son."
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    It's the American electorate that is at fault....

    It's the American electorate that is at fault. The practice of deficit spending, every politician's dream, has become so widely accepted and ignored that it's hard to imagine how to get anyone to pay...
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    Well said, WG. (Added later.) I don't entirely...

    Well said, WG.

    (Added later.) I don't entirely agree or disagree with your final line. I do think we have some freedom of will, but I don't know how that relates to God's sovereignty. I would not...
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    That one made me laugh out loud!

    That one made me laugh out loud!
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    I wonder what unilateral change to the status quo...

    I wonder what unilateral change to the status quo they expect from Taiwan? And if we do not support Taiwan being an independent state, then exactly what are we supporting?
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