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  1. Quite likely true. Or they might argue that we...

    Quite likely true. Or they might argue that we need to do away with testing since minority kids chronically perform less well than group.
  2. Turns out that remote learning doesn't work.

    For all those who assured us that students would do just fine by staying home and watching a computer screen, the NAEP report for 2022 showed a 5 point drop in scores for reading and 7 points in...
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    So I guess that is referring to the...

    So I guess that is referring to the state-sponsored suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story? "Nothing to see here."
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    Strange how you so eagerly (and no doubt...

    Strange how you so eagerly (and no doubt hysterically and non-angrily) support DW's similarly non-angry post 67, and yet ran past his very valid observation in post 78. Rather selective.

    At any...
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    If you say this (Go back to whatever you were...

    If you say this (Go back to whatever you were doing before posting here.) when you are happy, then I'd hate to see you when you are mad! Have you always had problems with simply being honest?
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    Why is it you so easily get angry when your...

    Why is it you so easily get angry when your statements are questioned? So sensitive!

    Come to think of it, that seems true of all the liberals on this site.
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    You’ve never been taught that eating an organism...

    You’ve never been taught that eating an organism causes its death?

    I don’t know of any reason to agree with your second statement.
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    I thought this reply by DW was good. How...

    I thought this reply by DW was good.



    How do you know they did not die before the fall? Plants, for instance, died upon being eaten. The living cells of tree limbs died and decomposed when...
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    The death spoken of was only for man and was...

    The death spoken of was only for man and was spiritual death.
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    No. Why do you say that?

    No. Why do you say that?
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    Good grief I am so glad I don't live in your...

    Good grief I am so glad I don't live in your neighborhood. I can only imagine. Peas, carrots, and beans are chewed up and swallowed except, I guess, at your house.

    Why do you say that?
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    But the seeds are also alive. When you eat them,...

    But the seeds are also alive. When you eat them, they die. Shame!!

    How do you know they did not eat meat?
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    Uhm...you lost me on that one.

    Uhm...you lost me on that one.
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    Yes, and vacuum cleaners and washing machines...

    Yes, and vacuum cleaners and washing machines should be outlawed. And CARS! Think of home many people cars kill every year.
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    Crickets.

    Crickets.
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    Thank you for supporting my position. The...

    Thank you for supporting my position. The founding fathers were largely not deists and attributed rights to a Creator God. Well documented!! No one has argued they were a bunch of evangelical...
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    That's not what the founding fathers believed.

    That's not what the founding fathers believed.
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    Nonsense. If you had evidence of this you would...

    Nonsense. If you had evidence of this you would link it. But even if it was true, it would be meaningless. The great, overwhelming bulk of evangelical leadership does not agree, and so your remarks...
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    Be sure to send a card!

    Be sure to send a card!
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    We really need those vaccine mandates to show...

    We really need those vaccine mandates to show everyone that personal freedom is of no value to liberals.
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    Well, go for it then! Still, I don't hold out...

    Well, go for it then! Still, I don't hold out hope. DeSantis is opposed to everything you like. Gay marriage, abortion, and wide open borders are not his favorite issues. True?
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    A good learner...at last. But we both know that...

    A good learner...at last. But we both know that is not going to happen.
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    You are a liberal. "Walks like a duck...quacks...

    You are a liberal. "Walks like a duck...quacks like a duck...) And since you voted for Biden, you can make no appeal whatsoever to voting for behavior or intelligence. Please. That plea is forever...
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    It appears the liberals here have gone silent...

    It appears the liberals here have gone silent again. I'm beginning to suspect it has something to do with the phases of the moon.
  25. Thus said one of the founding father deists. ***

    Thus said one of the founding father deists. ***
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    It often comes back to the same thing. A liberal...

    It often comes back to the same thing. A liberal is a person who takes great pride in being generous with someone else's money.
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    A dodge. Has been asked and dodged many times. ...

    A dodge. Has been asked and dodged many times.

    Science cannot determine the common good. It does not fall within the realm of scientific claims. Rational discussions about the social good can...
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    One out of 56. They were predominately Christian....

    One out of 56. They were predominately Christian. And even at that, Jefferson's Bible was done at the age of 77, several decades after penning the Declaration.

    I understand you believe that. To...
  29. God bless you, hannalauw.

    God bless you, hannalauw.
  30. Hope everyone here has a wonderful Thanksgiving!!

    We sure have much to be thankful for.
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    You're not listening. I haven't said that. I have...

    You're not listening. I haven't said that. I have said that the signers clearly believed that God instituted rights.

    From DW's post 4. "Your statement is a religious one, not a scientific or...
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    The Virginia Declaration, which predated the...

    The Virginia Declaration, which predated the Declaration, identified the "Creator".

    Strange words for Deists. What duty could be owed to an impersonal God who neither knows nor cares what we do?...
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    This is the text of the Congressional Prayer...

    This is the text of the Congressional Prayer Proclamation of 1779, just three years after the Declaration. It is definitely not a Deist prayer (then went on vacation and really couldn't care less...
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    First of all, that is flatly untrue. Not even...

    First of all, that is flatly untrue. Not even Jefferson was a Deist at the time of the writing of the Declaration. Many of the signers were Congregationalists (a Protestant denomination) while most...
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    The Bee strikes again.

    This is in reference to CBS finally figuring out that the Hunter Biden laptop story was genuine. And is it just a huge conincidence that they announced this just two weeks AFTER the midterms? Me...
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    If they go down, then good riddance. And that's...

    If they go down, then good riddance. And that's sad to say, but they could have taken a stand for decency and common sense, and instead took a stand for craziness and, they thought, money.
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    Technical term for that is CYA. It's just the...

    Technical term for that is CYA. It's just the usual tactic of the feds to avoid responsibility at all costs.

    Gas prices going up? "It's the Russkies!" The motto at one time was, "The buck stops...
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    Arizona seems to have pretty effective laws...

    Arizona seems to have pretty effective laws concerning absentee voting, but it's all for naught when vote counting extends for days in less than transparent situations.

    Maybe we need to learn a...
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    I did not. I cited a document agreed to by 56...

    I did not. I cited a document agreed to by 56 founders as evidence. It does not "prove" that the idea is true, but it does "prove" that 56 founders agreed with it since they all signed it, and it...
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    You also cited Jefferson. Did you make the...

    You also cited Jefferson. Did you make the reconcilement? Why would we? I'm not advocating for him.

    Because in the context of changing the Constitution, it is not a super majority of the public....
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    So repubs must become as corrupt as dems until...

    So repubs must become as corrupt as dems until the time comes that we can correct an corrupt system? I hope it has not come to that.
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    Sure seems to be the case. Now the question is,...

    Sure seems to be the case. Now the question is, what to do about it? It could very easily turn ugly.
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    Post 38. No, powers are the ability to govern and...

    Post 38. No, powers are the ability to govern and exercise authority. Rights refer to what inherently, in legal and moral power, rests with citizens. And since, as you now agree Jefferson said, they...
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    I wouldn't say that. This is how I characterized...

    I wouldn't say that. This is how I characterized it. "It is certainly true that women had many rights from the very beginning."
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    The 19th Amendment gave women the right to vote....

    The 19th Amendment gave women the right to vote. You will note that I mentioned nothing about voting. Most of what I mentioned was in state laws. Single women had advantages over married women...
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    Yes. From the very beginning.

    Yes. From the very beginning.
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    Still waiting to see any documentation for this...

    Still waiting to see any documentation for this material.
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    Owning property. Protections against theft, rape,...

    Owning property. Protections against theft, rape, murder, etc. Owning a business. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". AND they were not required to fight wars, toil in the fields, work 12...
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    Two possible answers. 1. "Men" was meant in...

    Two possible answers.

    1. "Men" was meant in the generic sense as of "mankind". It is certainly true that women had many rights from the very beginning.
    2. It's also possible that it was an...
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    This is the "consent of the governed" passage....

    This is the "consent of the governed" passage. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that...
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