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    Thank you for the correction. Even I confuse...

    Thank you for the correction. Even I confuse myself sometimes.



    As logic, there is no flaw. The first two premises being true, the conclusion logically follows. The issue, therefore, is not...
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    If, as you write, the spirit was the real father...

    If, as you write, the spirit was the real father of Jesus, then that supports a sinless Mary. Since, as previously mentioned, according to Augustine, original sin is transmitted via the sperm of the...
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    Trump has far greater mental problems than Biden....

    Trump has far greater mental problems than Biden. His demonstrated lack of knowledge is astounding for a wealthy 70+ year old man with an Ivy school education. His complete lack of empathy is a sure...
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    Mary had plenty of choices in life including...

    Mary had plenty of choices in life including Gabriel's offer. She could have refused, but instead, she said, "Be it done unto me according to thy word".



    That doesn't mean Mary did not see...
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    God is All-powerful. He can do anything he wants....

    God is All-powerful. He can do anything he wants. For Mary, God wanted her to be born sinless because she would be the mother of his son. Of course, you may now be asking, "Jesus was God's son AND...
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    Ok, good, you're learning. Now, let's go to...

    Ok, good, you're learning.

    Now, let's go to the visit of the angel to Mary. The angel told Mary she would be Jesus' mother. Since Jesus could not be born from a sinful mother, Mary was preserved...
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    No, you're not getting it. YOUR sinfulness came...

    No, you're not getting it. YOUR sinfulness came from your parents. That's true of everybody - except Jesus. He was born without sin as was his mother. Get it, now? I know it's a little confusing.
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    The Pope, as God's vicar on earth, knows many...

    The Pope, as God's vicar on earth, knows many things that come directly from God.



    Of course, he could. But he didn't. God has free will.

    I edited my answer to include the definitive reason...
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    No, only Mary was sinless. If the others had been...

    No, only Mary was sinless. If the others had been sinless, the Pope would have said so.



    So that Mary could bear Jesus. Jesus could not have been born from a sinful mother.

    Also, as St....
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    There are many ways government can support...

    There are many ways government can support education at all levels. It is in the interest of the nation.

    Forgiving loans is a bad idea. As you and WG have pointed out, it leads to greedy...
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    Excellent point. Those who speak and don't...

    Excellent point.

    Those who speak and don't know are always a danger and to be guarded against.
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    Mary was sinless. The Catholic Church...

    Mary was sinless.


    The Catholic Church declared this on December 8 in 1854 when Pius IX promulgated the doctrine in Ineffabilis Deus. It is called The Immaculate Conception, not to be confused...
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    The mystery religion question referred to the...

    The mystery religion question referred to the source of Mary's pregnancy, not the genealogy.



    I'll try.

    Both Gospels have Joseph as the father of Jesus, but they both also have the Spirit as...
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    True. The white evangelical worldview fits right...

    True. The white evangelical worldview fits right in to the QAnon conspiratorial worldview. They both rely on Satan as the mastermind at the root of evil and conspiracy theories. Trump supports both...
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    I agree. A zygote, being a clump of cells, is...

    I agree. A zygote, being a clump of cells, is definitely not human life.




    Simply not true. SOME scientists say that, which is more a reflection of their religious stance than their science....
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    Any anti-abortion position is based on religion...

    Any anti-abortion position is based on religion as I wrote above. I don't know what dust to dust is.



    I did not say the justices made a case for religion in reversing Roe. Alioto based it on...
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    Anti-abortion is a religious position originated...

    Anti-abortion is a religious position originated by the Roman Catholic Church in the 19th century when they declared that human life begins at conception. Such a declaration was due to internal...
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    Ha ha - lol. Good one! For Waltero, from...

    Ha ha - lol. Good one!


    For Waltero, from him.


    “There is need of only one thing. Mary has chosen the better part.”

    and
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    LOL - good one!

    LOL - good one!
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    Thank you, WG and dwashbur. Are these...

    Thank you, WG and dwashbur.


    Are these genealogies evidence that the story of Mary being impregnated by a spirit is from an author who did not know of the descent line from Joseph? Or was it...
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    Waltero, I actually understand you! You're a...

    Waltero, I actually understand you! You're a mystic. The literalists here will never understand you. They dwell on the surface, never in the depths.
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    Thank you - I know the Joseph/Mary thing, but why...

    Thank you - I know the Joseph/Mary thing, but why are they separated?
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    Geneologies of Jesus

    There are two different genealogies of Jesus. Which one is the earliest? Why are they different?
  24. Question: for Waltero

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    for Waltero

    Here's a little story that I think illustrates some of what Waltero has been saying. If I'm wrong, I'm sure he'll correct me.


    VERY shortened-----


    The bishop stops by a remote island...
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    I'm lovin' this. Hi, Waltero! Nice...

    I'm lovin' this. Hi, Waltero!


    Nice article, WG, but I have a quibble or two (or three).


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    Why was the New Testament originally written in the Greek and not in Hebrew or some...
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    Those who speak do not know, those who know do...

    Those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak.
    Lao-Tzu
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    tomder, what a lot of gibberish you and your lap...

    tomder, what a lot of gibberish you and your lap dog are spewing -

    WG just blew your entire argument out of the water by a simple recitation of the truth clearly shown in the context.
  28. Question: The Old Testament

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    Except for the bump on my head when I tripped on...

    Except for the bump on my head when I tripped on the empty beer bottles in my driveway, I'm in tip-top shape. You?
  29. Question: The Old Testament

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    Hmm, that puts new light on her claim. Moving...

    Hmm, that puts new light on her claim.

    Moving right along: here's the context of that thread.



    As can be seen, there was more to the thread than was cited. The change-the-thread part was an...
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    The elderly I know enjoy a bit of teasing. They...

    The elderly I know enjoy a bit of teasing. They can tease right back.



    Athos ain't a lib.

    He appreciates all sides depending on the issue. It's true, however, that the last four...
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    Aww, just when it was starting to be fun! ...

    Aww, just when it was starting to be fun!



    You say not disrespectful. I say cowardly. A little effort would go a long way to assuaging the poor man's difficulties. Like WG said but maybe a...
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    NOPE - wr-r-r-ro-o-o-on-n-n-g-g-g. You said ...

    NOPE - wr-r-r-ro-o-o-on-n-n-g-g-g.

    You said
    "And now this thread has been disrupted and rerouted"
    RIGHT AFTER you saying
    "They don't WANT TO BE! Ever hear of gender dysphoria? And aren't you...
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    Huh? Who? Moi? I said that? I musta been washed...

    Huh? Who? Moi? I said that? I musta been washed in booze (or altar wine).



    Well, ya got me there. In 1930 I was interviewed about that on Movietone News and I got hate mail shortly...
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    Tomder ---------- What do you do all day...

    Tomder ----------

    What do you do all day besides digging at all those loony right-wing websites trying to find anything so obscure that interests no one. Have you tried golf? Wheelchair...
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    So you want people to be disrespectful? Be honest...

    So you want people to be disrespectful? Be honest now. Are you a wolf in sheep's clothing? A fallen angel? Or, or, or - the ARCHFIEND HIMSELF?

    Does being the Archfiend help you get girls? Did you...
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    You criticize tomder for not answering your...

    You criticize tomder for not answering your questions, yet you offer this as one of your answers. Trying to be funny is just another form of distraction from the issue.

    In case you are offering...
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    If circumstances allow 1 and 2, there is no...

    If circumstances allow 1 and 2, there is no circumstance on earth why # 3 is not allowed. You cannot force an answer simply on your say-so. Isn't that Pharisaical thinking?
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    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY The comment above discusses...

    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

    The comment above discusses violence to MtF transgenders, athletic ability factors, an anecdote in Connecticut, and the position of Dr. Joshua Safer who is the head of the...
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    Neither. Response #1 is obviously...

    Neither.

    Response #1 is obviously disrespectful.
    Response #2 is also disrespectful. A respectful response would have been a calm approach to the elderly man re his behavior instead of ignoring...
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    You mean like Russia invading Ukraine? The 2020...

    You mean like Russia invading Ukraine? The 2020 presidential election rigged? The Jan6 insurrection "legitimate public discourse"? Many, many more - all fake news filtered through a "compliant...
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    No, you gave me no reasons. You gave me a lot of...

    No, you gave me no reasons. You gave me a lot of info re transgendering, but no reasons a MtF trans can compete fairly in women's sports.

    OTOH, I gave you many reasons why they can't. I will...
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    That's not the issue. Can a MtF trans compete...

    That's not the issue.

    Can a MtF trans compete fairly with women?
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    I assume they want what any coach wants...

    I assume they want what any coach wants regardless of team.



    No, not exactly. The topic is male-to-female transgenders competing unfairly on women's sports teams.
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    Avoiding the direct answer re women's sports. ...

    Avoiding the direct answer re women's sports.





    Laughing at me is nasty.
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    I was responding to YOUR comment on sex organs! ...

    I was responding to YOUR comment on sex organs!



    The issue is transgenders competing in women's sports. Not transgendering.



    PLEASE stay on track. Your lengthy links/quotes do not apply...
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    Unfortunately, WG, yes, she's a cheat. Not...

    Unfortunately, WG, yes, she's a cheat.

    Not because she still has male sex organs, but because her body retains male characteristics (noted earlier) that prove her far more physically powerful...
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    There's no need to insult her with nasty remarks.

    There's no need to insult her with nasty remarks.
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    I am dealing with it. By pointing out your...

    I am dealing with it. By pointing out your misinformation, your misleading comments, and your support of wacky right-wing nonsense.
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    groan Put to bed long ago.

    groan

    Put to bed long ago.
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    It's transgender, not transformer. Other than...

    It's transgender, not transformer. Other than that, I agree with what you wrote.
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