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Careful. Demanding evidence for an unfounded claim is sufficient reason to close a thread around here.

Palatable like: 1. festivals are fun. 2. There exists some great magic land in the sky so you don't really ever have to die.

And the non-belief in astrology is just another pseudo science, right?

I once suggested to a mod that there be a forum specifically geared towards secularism. Not surprisingly, he pshawed it.

Thank you Allheart for your explanation. I don't want to go further with this, because to be honest... You are too nice to argue with! :) I just want to take exception with 1 thing...

You...

Allheart,

I did not mean to imply that you personally smile at the thought of people burning in hell. Heavens no! You are much too kind and loving for that. But you do praise this god with a...

I think almost anyone can understand what you're saying Allheart and your intentions are undoubtedly good. But the problem is twofold:

1. Non-Christians are not denying or turning their back on...

You didn't say it. You implied it, which is why I said 'you are implying...'

I asked about God's thirst for blood. You responded by saying, Simple. They were disobedient. They had made up...

The question is why you don't go on atheists boards. I'll be flippant and ask if you're afraid of learning something? Nothing on religious forums has convinced me of a god, but I have learned a...

I hope these exchanges causes some of you guys to think a little bit as well...

You are implying that god created plagues to wipe out the innocent? The same can be said about every person on...

I have to be honest and admit there's actually some truth to this. Being raised Christian and spending a good portion of my life believing in god... I do in a way, resent the faith now after feeling...

I'd like every discussion to be civil. But it's sometimes hard when two people are looking at the same wall and one calls it white and the other blue, and both are convinced their perception of the...

Then how do you explain all the BLOOD?

Seriously De Maria, won't you (or somebody), please explain it? This is where you accuse non-believers of coming on here and causing trouble and being...

How do you know how much time you have left? Get to sailing NOW Sass! Seriously, don't wait to do what you want in life. Cred might outlive all of us. You never know...

I'll be honest... One reason I participate in these forums, is the same reason I sometimes read the paranormal forums where people talk about ghosts and shadow people. Morbid curiosity, I guess.
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I'm going under the presumption that God is omnipotent. That is, he is god and can extend his will. Wait! Before you say it...

I've heard about the free will argument. But certainly God could...

MoonlitWaves has been kind enough to try and explain some of this to me and either I am too stubborn, or too stupid to get it.



This whole bit about God's thirst for blood, death, torture,...

No, but I would still be generous with my love towards him. I especially would not allow him to spend eternity in the worst suffering and agony imaginable. Here's something you don't seem to be...

I like this, but still don't understand something...

Many Christians believe the ONLY to heaven is through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as our Savior. This means God is allowing his '1st...

Actually, I would change this slightly... It is in thinking they have a monopoly on the *truth* that gets people of other faiths and no faiths worked up. Thinking to have answers that no one can...

Thank you. It looks long, but I'll read the whole thing if you think the answer to my question is there. Again, I'm specifically looking for reasons one can assume that God sanctions Christianity...

It's not the 'jamming down our throat' that's bothersome. It's the backing up of what one says through the use of logic. That's where the problem comes in. I have no issue with someone trying to...

Are you answering my question? The OT has nothing to say about Christianity, and the NT was written by the few who disagreed over Jesus' divinity. So how can I expect to find the right answer there?

I don't know... It doesn't seem right to me. If you were unwittingly about to enter a building that had a bomb about to go off, I'd do everything I could to warn you and stop you from doing so. ...

I've been curious about this for quite some time. Not just about you, but all Christians...

Why would you think God placed a Catholic church here? There is no mention of Christianity in the old...

How can that possibly be enough? If you truly, really believe that people are going to spend eternity in hell if they don't accept Jesus Christ, then it is your obligation to preach to everyone you...

Sassy... You have already shown to know much more than some of your comments suggest, so I'm not going to stoop to baby talk like you *really* don't know some of these things you're asking.
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This statement is just wrong. And it remains wrong no matter how many times you decree it to be true. There exists tons of fossil evidence to support evolutionary theory.



No evidence for...

Asking:

That was very interesting and I truly enjoyed reading it. But I think the moral can be summed up in one sentence...

We are ALL born atheists.

Yes I have. Say no more.

I can accept that, because I understand where you're coming from and I hold the same view. That is, I realize that neither I nor science can ever satisfactorily prove or disprove the existence of...

Exactly what IS your question? Which line in the genetic code had a mutation some 265,367 years and 238 days ago to an apelike animal that caused intelligence to flourish? What? Can't tell me? ...

Can we respectfully delve into this a little deeper?

I agree that it's not the purpose of science to explain whether any gods exist. But I disagree that the existence of god is a matter of...

Please do give the details on the research that led you away from the scientific theory of evolution and into the belief of the creation story. Also, I'm curious... How many of your engineering...

It was taxonomy. And yes, the prof DID go over ToE!

Seriously sir (or madame)... READ SOME BOOKS! I have never claimed to be a scientist or a professor, or to have all the answers, but I have read many many books on the subject and tried to educate...

I'm not familiar with what Cred said, so I don't want to speak for him. I am only responding to what YOU said.



No, it is not a different proposition. We have developed a higher intelligence...

I agree with everything you say shattered soul, except that you seem to be implying that what is true for one, is not true for someone else. That may be the case in some areas, but in other areas it...

You are correct that learning different facts (education), has little to do with evolution. It is our capacity to learn those facts that comes through evolution.



Serious question and I mean...

It is thought that our intelligence really took off after we became bipedal. With our hands now free, our brains grew to devise ever more creative and useful ways for carrying things and tool...

My god. You're lack of understanding about this subject is astounding. Seriously... Read some books on evolution before embarrassing yourself like this.

I'm not sure how old you are, but I...

So why don't you just come out and say it? You accept evolution up until the point that it interferes with your precious religious beliefs. Then you're willing to suspended logic as necessary.
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People have survived longer than this stranded at sea. As to this:

I've been asking this and no one has answered. How did Noah and the animals cope with this? Even they had enough room to...

But on a serious note...

Don' you find it odd that the bible, which is supposed to be the word of god, makes no mention of manned flight, landing on the moon, cancer, the internet, AIDS, etc. ...

Maybe he wants to know if god ever meant for us to have electricity and indoor plumbing? What do you think? And why didn't god ever mention the coming of the internet? Or space exploration, or...

I never understood this. Surely there were other boats around. Why didn't anyone grab some veggies and hop in a boat?

Serious question... Can anyone familiar with the bible explain that? Or...

It's not our intelligence that has increased so much (although it probably has), it is our 'knowledge' which has increased with every passing year.

Are we better off? I don't know about you,...

They don't confirm everything about evolutionary theory. There are gaps. We know this. Scientists fully admit to not having all the answers (unlike Creationists who claim to know things no human...

You're probably joking around, but this is an incredibly excellent point! It shows just how hard it can be to discern exactly what has happened in the past just through fossils. Fortunately,...

My mistake. Was thinking Western hemisphere and 'other continents' at the same time, and Western Hemisphere is what got typed. Oops!